Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 I'm also fascinated at how much faith is put in the standard "RAC " type roll bar. Quote
hilux Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 QUOTE So how many times have you rolled yours Cant see that the roads are full of headless westy drivers , yet there's plenty of us still quite happy use the standard bar Then you are not aware of how useless it is, please carry on but drive very carefully. I did manage to roll my Ginetta G27 V8 (just the once), onto which I had fabricated and fitted roll over bars which saved my life as I walked away with cuts, bruises and a load of cracked ribs. I never rolled my old Westy but another Westy owner did around the time I owned mine and I`m not sure if he ever got his face back. I went out and bought and fitted a proper bar straight away. You have to imagine where the front and rear hard points are in a Westy. The front is the rocker cover and the rear is your head (unless you have a proper roll over bar/cage) The picture below is of a rolled standard factory bar (chocolate teapot comes to mind) Quote
hilux Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 QUOTE I'm also fascinated at how much faith is put in the standard "RAC " type roll bar. A decent gauge steel tube, properly braced will always work better than a hoop that folds flat or collapses sideways. I have a preference for smaller tombstone hoops as the legs are spaced closer so easier to brace. Even better is a properly fitted cage. Wifey wont let me have another kit car Quote
pistonbroke Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 If you were to hit something big and solid at any speed a cage or roll bar doesn't gaurantee you wont get hurt or very badly injured , disfigured , or even worse deaded same applies if something big and solid hits you , your a sitting duck The only way to gaurantee being safe on the road is to stay off the road Quote
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 I'm also fascinated at how much faith is put in the standard "RAC " type roll bar. A decent gauge steel tube, properly braced will always work better than a hoop that folds flat or collapses sideways. Only works well if it's the right height though, AND is used in conjunction with the appropriate harness AND they're properly done up. Quote
oioi Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Why are we all so fussed about going so fast? cos its fun Quote
oioi Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 So how many times have you rolled yours Cant see that the roads are full of headless westy drivers , yet there's plenty of us still quite happy use the standard bar i always used to refrain from these dicsussions, and think live and let live. but, recent experience should be shared... in the last two years 3 of my friends have rolled there 7's. all of them walked away. case one - a pointless dax triangle roll bar. the owner did a 360 in mid air and never used the roll bar. case two - the braced roll bar was dented in use, but in all probabilty saved the drivers life case three - flipped upside down into a ditch. roll bar didnt really come into play as the bonnet was on the road, the boot on the far side of the ditch with roll bar and driver dangling upside down into the ditch. case two the roll bar saved a life which the standard westie would not have. cases one and three - there but for the grace of god... Quote
hilux Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 QUOTE case two the roll bar saved a life which the standard westie would not have. cases one and three - there but for the grace of god... Fully understood, however I`m still not sure why anyone would not reduce a very major risk if they could and be "happy" with a product that doesnt really do what it says. IIRC in the month I trashed my G27. A catering van driver was killed and one seriously injured and one westy driver was killed. Anyway - `nuff said, you pays your money etc etc I was just trying to be constructive and informative. Quote
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