Boundry dispute

[DAVE O]

Picture paints a 1000 words an all that    

1st pic taken from front of house with fathers house to left. The fence at the bottom between the drives used to run from the road at the front right down to the rear most boundary

2nd pic taken from same place but zoomed in towards the blocked off gap.

3rd pic view from the rear at end of the conservatory to right and her garage to left. Panel fence shown from rear. Behind the camera is fathers patio and garden. Her garage continues 10 - 12 ft behind camera. Concrete base next to conservatory is where my fathers old garage went up to - with fence between the two.

[Bananaman]

Painter did a S*** job on that window LOL

[DAVE O]

   - It's masonary paint and it's all that's holding it in Lol!!

[Mark Stanton]

What a silly old cow ............... she's proper fuddled        

Common-sense is the first to go ............. let her waste her money on solicitors letters          

I'd get your old man down to CAB see if they can be an intermediary and perhaps play up the fact that she's 85 and fuddled and you're extremely concerned for her health, well being and overall security etc etc etc

You would be in your rights to put a fence up on the legal boundary which would screw it up for everyone - again perhaps explain this and remember to keep smiling and being "concerned" for your neighbour

[DAVE O]

Thanks everyone n Mark.  

just thought I'd get the views from the boardroom - I'll draft a letter to her solicitor with some proposals and see what happens.

Thanks again

Dave O.

[Mark (smokey mow)]

I think she's lost the plot completely, I've seen many instances where neighbours have been more than happy to give such a useless stip of land over to their neighbours and she's always got the right to come around to paint the garage window if she feels the urge.

I agree with all Marks comments, she's obviously old and scared that you're slowly stealing her garden (and will probably take her house soon too), explain that the fence was put there to replace the old trellis and to provide security for her as much as you.  Tell her that if her painter ever needed access all he'd need to do would be to knock on the door and you'd let him in via the back garden which would be alot easier for him to carry his paint pots than sqeezing past all those poles and the downpipe.

[John Loudon - Sponsorship Liaison]

The fence in the last pic could easily be made into a gate with a couple of hinges and still be made to look exactly as it is now

[Nick Algar - Competition Secretary]

Just try and keep it away for the solicitors or it will just cost shed loads and go nowhere. To be honest I would make it into a gate and give her a key, then change the lock after she has tried it the once that she will. It just isn't worth the legal crap you can get into with this sort of stuff.

Then as our illustious leader says when she pops her clogs, put it back as a fence

[Lurksalot]

My father is in dispute over a boundry with a neighbour - instigated by her.

Anybody out there have any knowledge re this -

Basically between our conservatory and her garage at the moment is an 'alley' for want of a better description 16" wide until recently blocked off with trellis to prevent any unwanted 3rd party access. Her painter took this down and broke it so it couldn't go back up. My father has re-blocked the gap with a fixed panel fence to secure it. This is fixed from our side wall and butts up to her garage but doesn't afix.

This has prompted a solicitors letter form her stating she wants access to the side of her garage and wants a hinged gate with key access.

The trouble is the gap between the garage and conservatory is 50/50 owned but only leads out onto our rear garden. So in effect she wants key access to our land at any time.

I've told my old man to errect a fence straight down the middle which would give her 8" access and would secure down the side of the conservatory and garden.

Anybody know where we stand legally.

Thanks in advance

Dave O.

Err sorry am I missing something here  

Why has this old lady instigated a dispute by requesting access to maintain her property as and when she needs to , whilst maintaining security by asking for a lock ?

She has obviously had grief due to the painter breaking the trellis for access and may not want the sitaution repeated .

You then very thoughtfully told your old man to build a fence just to spite her  

goodness me then a dispute develops  , her fault I guess

Lets hope she doesn't get too clever and start asking why you have clear glass overlooking her property (and what looks like large opening vents that could open to over her boundary )

But Hey Ho it takes 2 to tango  

[Dave_morton]

Hmmm, I have a thing for car-ports, would love one.

[DAVE O]

Err sorry am I missing something here  

Trust me you wouldn't believe how spiteful and vindictive an 85 yr old could be. - She's been drilling holes in down pipes and all sorts.

The first letter from her solicitor stated that her garage wall had been built 2'3" from her boundary. We worked out if that was the case my fathers conseratory/garage and driveway were all well onto her land. Surprisingly her solicitor made no comment re this in his next letter after we sent plans and deeds etc.

We just want the quickest solution to stop any more letters from her and give the least to complain about. My parents are elderly themselves and have had a previous 30 yr good relationship with her. She has also fallen out with neighbours on the otherside re their decking etc etc.

I just think a fence down the original boundary would give both sides a clear indication where they stand.

And yes my parents do have opening windows that open by 3" on catches so not to go over the boundary  

[Dave_morton]

We just want the quickest solution to stop any more letters from her and give the least to complain about.

Devils advocate here, surly the quickest, and least costly would be to stick a couple of hinges and a lock on the fence panel just to shut her up?

[DAVE O]

We just want the quickest solution to stop any more letters from her and give the least to complain about.

Devils advocate here, surly the quickest, and least costly would be to stick a couple of hinges and a lock on the fence panel just to shut her up?

Yep sounds good in theory but I know she will have the key in the lock everyday and will be walking down the side. She's lost the plot abit.

It's like my dad said - the bloke the otherside has a garage that faces his garden... Do we put a gate up for him aswell so he can walk in and check his garage. Bloke the otherside can't believe it...

[PeP]

Under the party wall act you are legally entitled to access onto your neighbours land (by prior arrangement)

The important bit to me is  by prior arrangement that says she cannot have a key to your property but can ask for permission to enter only.

[Lurksalot]

Under the party wall act you are legally entitled to access onto your neighbours land (by prior arrangement)

The important bit to me is  by prior arrangement that says she cannot have a key to your property but can ask for permission to enter only.

Yes , But you can't deny her access to her own part of the property whenever she wants it .

It sounds a bit of an all round shame really ,  

good luck