Bean Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 I'm sorry and don't mean to offend anyone but can someone explain why they have an aeroscreen and then wear a full face helmet. May as well stay with a screen. Only my opinion. A good aeroscreen should mean that you have, at worst, a gentle breeze in your face. At 100+ I can raise my open hand (to the wind) without a problem. However, if I then raise my hand so my wrist is next to my face my arm is nearly broken. This could also be why I've never been hit by anything, could it be that it's picked up and taken over my head. So, to answer the above question about may as well just remove the screen, then NO. Is that the problem, badly designed aero's? I think you've hit the nail on the head there, my Aeroscreen obviously does not direct the air over the top of my head adequately. Driving above 40-50mph without a helmet is uncomfortable. I have been debating removing my seat from its runners and bolting direct to floor in the hope of losing some height. Quote
h4muf Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Aeroscreen plus helmet looks like you mean business Quote
Leon B Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 I was always worried about the force on the windscreen at high speed, had visions of it decapitating me! Aero is so much more fun Quote
stephenh Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 The aeroscreen is worth an extra 10 mph (approx) in top speed, according to what I was told by Simon Westwood at Westfields when I was buying mine. I still have the rush of the wind around me at speed, its just that its pulling at my jacket and rushing around my helmet. If you think I should not wear a helmet so as to feel the wind in my face and hair instead of around my helmet, then if we take that arguement to its logical conclusion you should be driving round naked so as to get the wind in your chest hairs and pubic hairs!! In truth, its just whatever takes your fancy. And as has been said on this website many times in relation to many things about choice of spec, whether it be aero v full screen or bike v car engine, or how much power does anyone need in a Westie? go to a local meet and blag a ride on a blat. Quote
CrashBangWallop Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Rain! The few times I was caught in the rain with a windscreen, I could barely see. Wipers going flat out (which for a Westfield is about 3 wipes per minutes ). Actually, the problem is with the inside of the screen, not the wiper side. I guess the pressure difference sucks the rain around onto the inside of the screen. This was enough to have me take it off, along with the wipers, motor, washer jets, water pump and accompanying bottle of water. Quote
stu999 Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 I have a screened car for the road and an aero for racing. IMO that's the best way to go. I dont like the aero on the road too much to go wrong. Like what? I don't fully understand this 'logic' TBH. As others have already pointed out, you are only at slightly less of a risk of sustaining personal 'damage' by having a slab of glass in front of you, as most things that are likely to hit you will be airborne anyway... Unless of course, you fit the sidescreens. And the roof. In fact, take the tin-top, because that probably has ABS and airbags... Quote
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 I don't fully understand this 'logic' TBH. As others have already pointed out, you are only at slightly less of a risk of sustaining personal 'damage' by having a slab of glass in front of you, as most things that are likely to hit you will be airborne anyway... Unless of course, you fit the sidescreens. And the roof. In fact, take the tin-top, because that probably has ABS and airbags... I'm constantly amazed by the faith so many put in such a small piece of glass, so far in front of them FWIW, the only marks from air born debris that my helmet shows are all at or above forehead level; which for me at least wouldn't have got any more protection from a screen. (Significantly less infact, as I wouldn't have been wearing a helmet) Quote
Norman Verona Posted March 18, 2009 Posted March 18, 2009 QUOTE I still have the rush of the wind around me at speed, its just that its pulling at my jacket and rushing around my helmet. Stephan, as I said above, badly designed aero. You should be able to drive an aero'd car at 40 mph with no goggles or glasses. I wear a set of very large Birdz goggles as I wera glasses under them. Try the hand by the face test at 60 mph. If your hand is being pressed back your aero isn't doing it's job. Quote
Edd Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 I still have the rush of the wind around me at speed, its just that its pulling at my jacket and rushing around my helmet. Stephan, as I said above, badly designed aero. You should be able to drive an aero'd car at 40 mph with no goggles or glasses. I wear a set of very large Birdz goggles as I wera glasses under them. Try the hand by the face test at 60 mph. If your hand is being pressed back your aero isn't doing it's job. Sorry to drag an old topic up which is the best aeroscreen which "works properly" or is it a case of just the fitting of the screen? Any help would be appreciated as looking to switch to aero soon Quote
dombanks Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 this is my first westy and i went straight for aero. i think you need to have a helmet but tbh its mostly for comfort. when it rains it keeps my head dry, on a long motortway run like stoneleigh it justa little more comfortable. swmbo prefers it and when its cold it keeps my head warm most of the time i wear a pair of oakleys and have boon ok so far. i have been hit by a few stones tho and a couple have been at high speed and yes it hurt but it was nothing tbh the things that i mostly hit are bugs. i think tho you have to be a little proactive.... you can generally predict when somethings going to come at you and keep out the way Quote
Cleggy the Spyder Man Posted July 21, 2009 Posted July 21, 2009 I have changed over to the dark side just recently after saying I never would in the end the need for speed won through anyway - if it is adjusted right, I have mine so it sits 2" or so below my eye line it does a good job and keeps you out of the way for faster road use I always wear a helmet, as I did with the screen on anyway, for casual rides out it's good sunglasses and a beanie hat to stop the impact of flies/stones Just waiting for mickmade to get some half doors made now as you do feel a bit more vulnerable from the side with an areo ... well I do anyway Quote
JeffC Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 Ive always had areoscreen cars and never complained about them used them mainly for track use, the one time I fitted a full windscreen I took it back off after a week as I found the buffeting worse and a crow flew in front of me and smashed it to smitherines, that could have been nasty if i had been areo , reckon it would have knocked me out latest car has a screen and full doors and i can tell you for road use there is not a way in the world I would replace it with an aeroscreen , its so nice going out without a helmet on and to converse to a passenger without shouting and not getting t*****d by flies and stones Ive even been caught in torrential rain twice now and never put the hood up as if you keep up speed the rain goes over the top I reckon i must have aged considerably over the last year as i now have a 3 speed heater and wipers and plans to remove them either Quote
Guest Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 As most of you will know - I have been running a full screen on my westie for the past 9 years and have no intention of changing. I used to own (in my much younger days) a Yamaha 250 RD Induction (motorbike) and got struck in the throat at about 70mph by a bumble bee never knew a bumble bee could hurt so much - could not breath and fell off (badly) as a result. I was wearing a full face helmet, but the little bugg*r got in via the gap between my chin and the leathers - all happened very quickly. Have not owned a motorbike since. Having driven an aero screened westie on the track at Ty Croes, I have to say there is less "buffeting" than with a windscreen fitted - but I will not be removing mine. Call me daft - but I feel safer behind the screen and side-screens. Good job we are all open to differing opinions eh Quote
Jenko Posted July 22, 2009 Posted July 22, 2009 I went from screen to aero and would never go back......BUT, I also fitted lower seats at the same time, and this made a difference.... As Jeff mentioned, Screen AND doors is going to be the most comfortable, but without the doors the normal screen can be a right pain on the motorway..... I had a peak at an Atom at goodwood with a full (but aerodynamic) screen, I also notice MNR are doing them..... I still wonder why Westfield, Caterham, etc don't do one!.... Quote
GINGESEIW Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 I'm planning to post a picture of my screen after a stone (or something!) hit the front of my car and then the screen on the M3 the other day. It came from nowhere (other carriageway?) as there was nothing infront of me for a good distance and there were no bridges in sight. All I can say is.... Thank God I had a screen! Quote
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