Chav B*****ds

[John Williams (Panda) - Joint Manchester AO]

Jeff,

I feel for you and your family.... i know from personal experience as my sister and her boyfriend on a night out last year and their friend was stabbed in the back with a screw driver... by a group of 6 local lads, its taken time for them to walk on the street again.

Who stabbed him?... every b****r touched the screwdriver and so 6 set of prints and so they cant prove who did it and none of them talking.... am i happy with this? Yes and No during the attack they stole her purse with her driving license in and they know where she lives.

Do i think that the criminal should serve the time YES, but at the risk of my family(?) I DON'T KNOW!!!!

I'm not a tree hugging hippy but violence begets violence, and until society has faith in the law and the law is given the power and the support they they need to to enforce the law this will continue.

They need to fear the law and the penalties enforced and currently they don't.

Cheers

John

[Terry Everall]

Cowardly little gits.

I hope you come across them one at a time.

With or without a baseball bat I'd have my pound of flesh.

If you dont stand up to bullies and thugs they just do it even more.

If they are a bit battered and bruised they will think about it before doing it again.

[mark.anson]

Bring back National Service.(chavs only of course).

Or deport them to a country with a very poor human rights record.

[John Loudon - Sponsorship Liaison]

Guantanamo Bay  

Idiots  

[Perywinkle]

Few years back now , me and a mate got the snot kicked out of us by a group of 20 or so lads outside a cab rank because I wouldn't give one of them a tab.

Several witnesses identified a good half dozen of them.

Criminal Protection Service did f*ck all and decided not to press charges, despite my mate getting the worse of it with a hole in his top lip he could poke his tongue through and a broken jaw.

They weren't so brave individually

Scum like that have no concept of remorse and no fear of the judicial system.

Pain and fear of pain however will make them think twice.

[Crazy Eddie]

Really sorry to hear about this

Hopefully it was a random attack and therefore won't hear anymore of it.

Baseball bat all well and good but there is ALWAYS someone out there willing to take it further than you are and so best left well alone. Also if anything did happen and you ended up seriously injuring one of them or worse it would be you behind bars as, unbelievebly, they would count as witnesses   !

Sounds like you dealt with it as best you could but at a responce time of 30mins I would be having serious words with your Local Police and MP that is potentially lethal!  

All the best and just reassure your family that it was random and so they (although justified) shouldn't remain in fear.

Eddie

Edited to add: This sort of thing really does P**s me off because the law seams to be worth less and less I wouldn't ave dreamed of doing this as for one respected the power of the Police and at least my parents - how times have changed. My mum is a teacher and she can't belive what some of the kids come out with - no respect at all and on parent's evening all is revealed!    

[pistonbroke]

Charles Bronson for Pope  

[BigDaveUK]

Sorry to hear this, as has been said they have no fear of the law, but why should they?

I was attacked on my drive, rang the police after, they never turned up! i rang the next day and all i got was 'there was nobody available'

so even if they do eventually turn up, the chavs know the police will do nothing, and at the worst they will get a night in a cell and a free meal.

Also as has been said, its all well and good wanting to take it in your own hands and believe me, i understand the feeling, but it will just escalate(spelling?) it more.

Plod will do nothing so you are best letting it go, hope it was a one-off random attack.

Easier said than done i know.

[hogman]

The thing is if you do let it go and think it was a one off then surely they are getting away with it scott free and will continue the attacks on other people and possibly you again.

The law needs to be changed to allow public floggings and hangings, then there might be a little more respect.

You are in a no win situation at the moment sadly, you have my best wishes.

[Paul Hurdsfield - Joint Manchester AO]

Bring back National Service.(chavs only of course).

Would you really want someone so stupid and lawless to get their hands on a semi automatic weapon  

[Dave]

Last year I talked to a couple of lads who had come around the corner outside my house totally out of control in their mums fiesta with 3 in the back 2 of them girls one lives just around the corner.

I confronted them as they pulled in outside the girls house.

Ended up getting a round of FFF’s from them, I  took 1 pace forward and they ran off, I was never any closer to them than 12 ft.

Talked to the girls and said I was going to call the cops about their driving, unless they apologised and talked sensibly to me.

Anyway I got another round of FF’s and called the police.

10 mins later 2 vans turn up with 7 officers some in riot gear with helmets on

I relay what has happened and they take the car reg and go looking for them.

½ hr later 2 cop vans and a car turn up with 9 officers in total some still in riot gear and ask if they can come into my house whereupon I am cautioned for threatening behaviour  

I explain to the cops that I was no closer that 12 ft and am told that the kids were only 18 years old and found my 6ft 15 stone intimidating.

It all then seemed to calm down and the officer told me not to approach anyone in that way again

A couple of hours later the girls Dad knock’s on my door, initially looking for trouble

I explained what had happened and that his daughter could have been hurt

The next think I know the driver and his mates have all had little accidents bit of bruising, couple of black eyes and the driver can’t drive due to his broken fingers.  

Now that’s Fathers for justice    

[Captain Colonial]

I have to say that in my experience, the only thing that works is planning and retaliation, plus neighbourhood support.

Had a brand new VW Passat years ago, 40 miles on the clock, and was keyed all the way down one side the first night outside the house - sickener.

The next day, the two little toerags that did it (ID'd by neighbour who saw it happen) walked by, pointing and laughing at their handiwork.  I went outside and followed them to their house. Once they got there, one of them walked to his chavmobile (Peugot 206 driven through Halfrauds window special). I went up to him and asked why he laughed at that car with a scratch. "Cause we done it! Passats are rep mobiles and deserve it, and that one was brand new and all! So what? What's it to you?"

I then told him it was my car, I knew where he lived and what his car was, and that I wouldn't be bothering the cops, I'd just take my revenge sooner or later, and he should keep looking over his shoulder.

After three months of making him sweat with slow drive-bys, waving at him in the street, etc., one night someone (certainly not me!) poured brake fluid over his pride and joy and stripped the paint off it.  He assumed it was me and next time he saw me, he was livid.  I replied, "Yeah, feels bad to get your things damaged, doesn't it? If someone does something to me or my things, it won't be just paint that disappears forever - it'll be them - and I've got plenty of experience in removals", and walked off. No problems afterwards.

[cast iron]

I was mugged many years ago getting onto the bus into town, went to caurt and "I" was bound over to keep the peace  

Had the badges removed from my 350Z and luckily the sods were caught, they got 6 months on report! and i got jack shic because the cops never submitted my costs into the charge. ******s

So on one hand the law doesnt work

However to go round and get them one at a time turns you into the criminal by doing exactly what was happening to your son on the drive

There isnt an easy answer

[Nick Algar - Competition Secretary]

Really feel for you and your family, hope you are getting over it now.

The only "easy answer" is for the law in this country to actually mean something. It used to, until all the Human rights people etc got hold of it. The Police are as frustrated as we are, up to the Governemt to start changing things, but they have been promising that for 10 years now      

[Rory's Dad]

There isnt an easy answer

Agreed - my thoughts are for all the family.

Best wishes        

Rory's Dad