peterg Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Right so i drive a Volvo S40 2.0D Sport, according to the volvo website, Max Total Weight is 1850kg, so if i get a trailer like this... http://www.brianjames.co.uk/pages/trailers/clubman.html The clubman 1000, says max weight of 1000kg, so thats total 2850 max weight, well below. is that correct? Not quite, The car weighs 1850kgs, the trailer can take a LOAD of 1000kgs... BUT, you then have to add the weight of the trailer which you haven't included it's likely to be about the same as my PRG Sport which is 400kgs so you're up to 3250kgs which means that your Westfield would have to weigh less than 250kgs to be legal why not just do the test and then you'll never have to worry about it Quote
Ninja Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 I see a new tow car on the horizon.. I've got an Audi A4 Avant (bought from JC as it happens). Kerbweight: 1450 Minno-max: 1600 Total: 3050 Quote
peterg Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 take the engine out of the se7en and then it'll only weigh 350kgs so you'll be under Quote
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Right so i drive a Volvo S40 2.0D Sport, according to the volvo website, Max Total Weight is 1850kg, so if i get a trailer like this... http://www.brianjames.co.uk/pages/trailers/clubman.html The clubman 1000, says max weight of 1000kg, so thats total 2850 max weight, well below. is that correct? Not quite, The car weighs 1850kgs, the trailer can take a LOAD of 1000kgs... BUT, you then have to add the weight of the trailer which you haven't included it's likely to be about the same as my PRG Sport which is 400kgs so you're up to 3250kgs which means that your Westfield would have to weigh less than 250kgs to be legal why not just do the test and then you'll never have to worry about it Er, hasn't he already included the 1000 Kg max load? Or to put it another way, 1850 + 1000 + (upto) 650 Kg for the trailer. Mind you, I agree that the test is probably the best route. Quote
BigDaveUK Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 Not quite, The car weighs 1850kgs, the trailer can take a LOAD of 1000kgs... BUT, you then have to add the weight of the trailer which you haven't included it's likely to be about the same as my PRG Sport which is 400kgs so you're up to 3250kgs which means that your Westfield would have to weigh less than 250kgs to be legal why not just do the test and then you'll never have to worry about it But as said above, the weight of the westy is included already in the max load, Volvo 1850 Max Load 1000 (westy & Tires & Fuel) Trailer 600 Total Max Weight 3450kg Even if the trailer is 600kg i`m still under, and the load will always be alot less than 1000kg. And i dont like tests! Quote
Nick Algar - Competition Secretary Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 I think you guys are right about the trailer weight, the Westie weight is irrelevant, it's the trailer total gross weight possible or MAM. Have heard comments that the test is quite difficult as more akin to lorry tests and that the examiners can be quite tight. Quote
BigDaveUK Posted September 1, 2008 Author Posted September 1, 2008 I think you guys are right about the trailer weight, the Westie weight is irrelevant, it's the trailer total gross weight possible or MAM. Have heard comments that the test is quite difficult as more akin to lorry tests and that the examiners can be quite tight. I hope thats right, because thats what i`m going with! long as a get a trailer with max loading capacity of 1000kg and weight of 649kg max, i`ll be under the limit. I`ve heard that about the test too, and expensive, around the £700 mark! Its expensive enough as it is, tow bar fitted to the volvo will cost me £575 then the cost of a trailer, minimum £1200 new. where is a good place to find a 2nd hand trailer? Thanks again for everyones help Quote
dhutch Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Has anyone actaully taken a test then - Ive just asked myself the same question (looking at geting a cheap covered trailer). - Its also all a bit close the 1200kg max drawbar weight of the 306 as well. However assuming the test is reasonably priced, and suitable passable, it would be a good badge to have anyway. - Ive been towing for a year or two, 8*4ft flatbed upto scotland and back, also south coast and back, and simular miles with a 15ft sailing boat. All behind the the 306 bar one run in my grandads T reg Opel Vectra. Daniel Quote
peterg Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 I`ve heard that about the test too, and expensive, around the £700 mark This company does a two day comprehensive trailer towing course for £430 or individual tuition for £40 an hour inc trailer and reversing area more info from another company here The DSA B+E trailer test appears to cost only £105 Quote
dhutch Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Ive had a ring round. - There doesnt seam to be many people doing it, as as mentioned, it is basical a HGV almost! If you get a B+E, and then get a C. You automatical again C+E. Prices ive got are. £40/hour, lesson, car and trailer supplied. £35/hour, lesson in your car, with there trailer. £30/hour, if you supply all of it (inc rearview mirror for passenger etc) 2 Days plus test on 3rd day. £750. 2 Days with test on afternoon of 2nd day. £560. 3hours Lessons. £100. Test alone. £105. Blokes going to email be all the bumph tonight. However, as mentioned above, as far as i can see you should be ok to tow most trailers with most cars as long as you dont do anything extreame. - But towing other than a very small trailer behind a Van or Motorhome is proberbly out of the question on a CatB ticket. So, i'll proberbly not do the hundreds of pounds out of the bank job. But keep an eye on opertunites to get it anytime i can get work or somone else to fund it! Daniel Quote
BigRuss Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 QUOTE I've got an Audi A4 Avant (bought from JC as it happens). Kerbweight: 1450 Minno-max: 1600 Total: 3050 Problem with that is that the kerbweight of the car also has to be more than the MAM of the trailer! Quote
MARTIN T Posted October 18, 2008 Posted October 18, 2008 A BIG UPDATE, spoke to a guy at the DVLA about down weighting my VW T5 from 3000kg to 2500kg to give me more allowance for the trailer, he gave me a company to call, SV Tech, they can re-rate vehicles and trailers, when I called them they said I could down rate my van to 2500kg and down rate my trailer to 1000kg, so a total of 3500kg, it would cost £65 for the two plates and the paper work they send dvla for the change, then there is nothing PC Plod can do as the vehicles would be running on the new plates with dvla, also I can re-rate my van back when i sell it. Stuff the £500 quid I was quoted for the trailer test. Quote
BigDaveUK Posted October 18, 2008 Author Posted October 18, 2008 Nice. very interesting, thanks. Quote
TrevorC Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 I think you guys are right about the trailer weight, the Westie weight is irrelevant, it's the trailer total gross weight possible or MAM. Have heard comments that the test is quite difficult as more akin to lorry tests and that the examiners can be quite tight. I hope thats right, because thats what i`m going with! long as a get a trailer with max loading capacity of 1000kg and weight of 649kg max, i`ll be under the limit. I`ve heard that about the test too, and expensive, around the £700 mark! Its expensive enough as it is, tow bar fitted to the volvo will cost me £575 then the cost of a trailer, minimum £1200 new. where is a good place to find a 2nd hand trailer? Thanks again for everyones help Nice trailer available here -- everything to do with me!! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws....5831988 Quote
headland blue Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 i passsed my b+e on wednesday and i dont care what anyone says its really hard to do. same test as hgv same total driveing time same routes and same measured reverse total time of 1 and a half hours I was the same as you makein excuses and addin figures then i saw a trailor get tipped over and i think if you have the b + e if sumit goes wrong even under 3500 atleast you can prove that your at a standard Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.