BP Ultimate 102 unleaded

[alan dixon]

BP Ultimate 102 is the most advanced performance fuel specially formulated for motor sport enthusiasts

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[craig-c]

looks good, but i don't fancy traveling down south just to try it, you would think they would trial it up north aswell or are we not worthy  

[James]

I saw this at Goodwood and it did look impresive offering gains without having to re map the car however with remapping the gains were even more impresive, BUT I wouldent want to go to this trouble when there are only 8 fuel sations suplling it and the nearest about 80 miles from me, all in all I think a good idea just poorley implimented.

[steve_m]

Is this the one that's £2.50 a litre ?

[ljsanders]

For those in Portsmouth, the BP garage just south of the roundabout of the roundabout at the bottom end of the Mile End Road, next to where the old ABC Cinema used to be,

is selling 102 Ultimate at £2.50/litre.

Thats the All Saints Self Serve, according to the list.

This place is about 8 miles from me. Although my Westy is a 1800 Zetec, so it wouldn't be much use without my car specifically mapped for it.

It would be interesting to try some of this stuff in my remapped Leon Cupra (which like's Optimax/Tesco 99 SUL) which I can adjust the timing for better fuel using my Revo SPS-3. Although VAG 1.8T's take a few tank fulls before to really has any noticable affect but at 100 quid a tank.

[Blatman]

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selling 102 Ultimate at £2.50/litre.

Which at least explains why it isn't being trialled in the north

[Liam]

If you click on 'who should use it' you can see that it apparently has to be applied direct to the inlet manifold on a Westfield      

[pistonbroke]

Nothing to do with the N/S devide

Much more likely  this something to do with supplying the F1,  sports GT cars etc with  "ordinary" pump fuel which has to be available and on sale to the general public  

Sort of a homoligation blend  

[Guest]

selling 102 Ultimate at £2.50/litre.

Which at least explains why it isn't being trialled in the north

its actually 2.42 a litre and it won't make much difference in your westy ............. however if you are running a 2 stroke then its worth it .

however most motorsport won't allow it as i have read the blue book and the max i can see being legal is 100 ron.

you also need a pin code to activate the pump that serves it , but if anyone needs to know the code is 102 ............

however we have tested 102 and it works , its also totally clear ,and smells different.

[Martin Keene]

But if your going to spend that much on fuel, a pukka race fuel, like Sunoco GT Plus 109, is only 42p a litre more from Fluke.

Or put another way:

BP Ultimate 102 costs £0.278 / octane point more than Optimax.

Sunoco GT Plus 109 costs £0.151 / octane point more than optimax.

Assumes Optimax at £1.03/litre, BP Ultimate 102 at £2.42/litre and Sunoco GT Plus at £2.84/litre.

[a4drk]

Tell me, whats the point of doing a trial of this stuff

in 2 x BP garages in London that are 3.8 miles apart ?

Why didnt they they do one in London & one in Manchester ?

mental............

[a4drk]

It's actually at 8 garages now..............

[longshanks]

Unless you're all going to remap your ignition it's all totally academic....

The only benefit of a higher octane fuel is more resistance to knock at higher compression ratios and/or more advanced ignition timing (as has been discussed on here a few times IIRC).  The only production cars on the road that could possibly make use of the higher octane rating are those that have knock control systems in the ECU that continuously adjust ignition timing to maximise torque whilst "listening" for knock. Even these will struggle to see any improvement, as they're all calibrated for the normal pump fuel range, i.e. max 98 ron.  I doubt very much that any Westys will be running KCS....  although I stand to be corrected

As for all that stuff about  "The exceptionally good evaporation properties", well that's just tosh!

Sorry to be a party pooper, but IMHO it's just another scam to wring more cash out of us at the pumps....      

[Blatman]

Unless you're all going to remap your ignition it's all totally academic....

The only benefit of a higher octane fuel is more resistance to knock at higher compression ratios and/or more advanced ignition timing (as has been discussed on here a few times IIRC).  The only production cars on the road that could possibly make use of the higher octane rating are those that have knock control systems in the ECU that continuously adjust ignition timing to maximise torque whilst "listening" for knock. Even these will struggle to see any improvement, as they're all calibrated for the normal pump fuel range, i.e. max 98 ron.  I doubt very much that any Westys will be running KCS....  although I stand to be corrected

As for all that stuff about  "The exceptionally good evaporation properties", well that's just tosh!

Sorry to be a party pooper, but IMHO it's just another scam to wring more cash out of us at the pumps....      

I competely agree.

Plus, if it evaporates better, it's also evaporate straight out of the tank better too...

[Guest]

But if your going to spend that much on fuel, a pukka race fuel, like Sunoco GT Plus 109, is only 42p a litre more from Fluke.

Or put another way:

BP Ultimate 102 costs £0.278 / octane point more than Optimax.

Sunoco GT Plus 109 costs £0.151 / octane point more than optimax.

Assumes Optimax at £1.03/litre, BP Ultimate 102 at £2.42/litre and Sunoco GT Plus at £2.84/litre.

Martin i think you need a new calculator , sunco GT+ is 3.33 a litre if you ad vat , then you have to add delivery to that , so your way out .

102 is straight out the pump , however its not race legal , for club motorsport and its not any use to a car not mapped to cope , however it does make a difference if used in something that can cope ........ eg a 2 stroke motor ,jetted correctly.