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Sorry to here of your woes, but these feelings seem to be endemic throughout the NHS.

I myself am an NHS dentist in the Scarborough area (yes we do still exist) but having stuck with it for many years, one set of twits tinkering in Whitehall after another, we will not be able to stay in the NHS with the changes they brought in in April this year.

Some will say we are all money grabbing b*******s, I am most certainly not, I passionatly care , and could have seen the dental system improving  but the DoH pulled out, of several trials that were working well at the last minute last year (Down to money, NOT value for money). I would have pulled out of the NHS 10 years ago, if I was purely in it for the money. The whole 'value for money' / 'fixed budget accountability' does not work in the NHS, but this is the cr@p we are having to work with @ the minute.

The funding at our practice for NHS treatment will run out by probably December this year, and we will then only be able to treat people privately..

Regardless of this, currently because of the new ill thought out charging system we can do fillings cheaper privately than on the NHS...

BUT Too many in our society expect too much of the NHS, and far too few value it, hence the scroats that Scott, and everyone in frontline primary care have to deal with.. I totally sympathise with you mate.

Rant over, hope you feel better tomorrow/ or find something else soon ;)

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Posted

Scott

You weren't the only one to be shafted under

'Agenda for change'   :bangshead:

NHS is in a right bl**** mess

Staff at the bottom are being kicked, but as usual the managers at the top are doing very nicely thankyou

Every time i see Patricia bl**** Hewitt on the telly telling everybody everythings ok it makes my blood boil

She ain't got a clue whats going on   :bangshead:

Rant over

Time to open the fridge    :xmas:    ;)

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All moans aside, I have recently been going along a road of medical investigation and diagnosis at my local NHS hospital and I can truly say that the treatment I have received has been excellent and the sense of urgency totally commensurate with the (initially)apparent seriousness of the symptoms.  Now that there is evidence (not proof, but that's medicine) that the problem is not life threatening I am in the slow lane of treatment. But that's how it ought to be, urgent stuff treated urgently, minor stuff 'as-and-when'. None of the praise is due to HMGoverment or the managers of the Trust, but totally down to the dedicated medical staff in the hospital. My hat, if I had one, would be off to them. :t-up:
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Hi Scott, I was a retail manager working upto 70 hours a week including Saturdays and Sundays. Got fed up with having no time for anything else other than work, was suffering chest pains through stress at just 28.

I decided enough was enough and took my HGV test, now I work Monday to Friday 6 till finish but still get paid untill 3, any other hours are optional overtime. I have no stress, don't work with mooron customers that complain about everything and talk to you like a piece of s**t on ya shoe and still earn around the 30k mark.

Might not be your cup of tea but worked out ace for me, lots more blatting time now.  :D  :D  :D  :D

Good luck to ya,there's more to life than work.

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I worked in a professional football environment for 8 years. It was pretty much a 7 day a week commitment for 50 weeks a year. Christmas, New Year, Easter etc are all times where there are more matches, more training and lots of travel. But... at the time I thought it was FAB. It didnt seem like a real job and was like getting paid lots for having lots of fun.

Looking back I realise I was lucky and sympathise with anyone in who is in a job which requires real commitment to do it properly, but doesn't offer real enjoyment in return.

Getting paid lots doesn't make a bad job into a good one either but I appreciate it can make a bad one bearable.

Jim

ps. having been a Uni student 3 times I highly recommend it for a break. The pay is poor but the hours are unbeatable!!   :D

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Where I live it seems you can't get dental treatment on the NHS so you have to go private. I'm paying for NHS out of my salary/ stamps/ taxes whatever but I have to pay again privately to get my teeth fixed. Makes me sick to have to pay twice for something.

Scott, why not go & work for Bupa. If that's the way we are heading go where the money is.

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Where I live it seems you can't get dental treatment on the NHS so you have to go private. I'm paying for NHS out of my salary/ stamps/ taxes whatever but I have to pay again privately to get my teeth fixed. Makes me sick to have to pay twice for something.

Scott, why not go & work for Bupa. If that's the way we are heading go where the money is.

The sad thing is if you look after your teeth, and maybe only need the odd filling once in a while, you are still paying again (aswell as with your taxes) on the NHS, and more than we can do simple ones for privately.

It says a lot when this government is using healthy motivated people to subsidise those who could't give a hoot about their mouths. The smart ones are realising that going private/independant/Denplan actually means that you are paying for your own treatment, not subsidising anyone elses.

I am not saying that you shouldn't at least have the choice, but at least you are getting what you are paying for

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Hi Scott, I was a retail manager working upto 70 hours a week including Saturdays and Sundays.

Me too once upon a time. Didn't have a holiday in 3 yrs but loved being my own boss and loved the market I was in so didn't resent the long hours I had to put in.

If I hadn't got involved with some of the people I did; or gone down some of the alleyways that I did I'd probably still be there today and very content; but you live and learn I suppose

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 s**t happens mate and you won't get a job with 30k without relevant training I'm affaid.

Thats one of the biggest stumbling blocks to the few ideas I've had for new ventures. I'm not daft enough to think I'd be able to walk into a completely new field and command the same paypacket; but you gotta pay yer bills as they never get any smaller :down:

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I decided enough was enough and took my HGV test, now I work Monday to Friday 6 till finish but still get paid untill 3, any other hours are optional overtime

Now that's something that quite grabs me.

More info please. Who do you work for? Who did you train with?

Posted

Wow

sounds a bit scary if it is at the stage that you think a change is necessary :0

But variety is the spice etc

we all do the S*** we do for our own reasons, and if our needs change, then I guess, the amount of S*** we are prepared to put up with also changes

good luck Scott

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And the amount of sh*t I'm prepared to put up with has been reached. So the search begins
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Scott

My mate used to be a Driving instructor £15K (hated it in the end) became a train conductor £17K+ and has now trained to be a Train Driver £30K+....

However it does involve shifts.... :(

Seems to get plenty of time off though....

Might be worth looking into (about 1 year taining.....)

Posted

Hi Clive,

No idea what to do. Government put too many people into the bottom end of the system without expanding training higher up the tree. Training numbers for more experienced doctors are decreasing. MMC(Modernising medical careers) has phased us out of the system in favour of juniors, so my experience and exams count for nothing as I am not even allowed to apply for most training jobs anymore.

Only option is to head to the southern hemisphere and start from scratch. :down: Hence a narrow bodied VX will be on the market soon, breaks my heart but just can't keep it when I am moving all over the country to locum. :bangshead:  :bangshead:  :bangshead:

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all I know is the  motor trade , dont know if it would be your thing but...Selling  cars isnt rocket sience, buy cheap and sell for a profit ???

Once you build up a customer base and relations with sources to buy stock from you can more or less run a business without leaving your house , I prob now only spend one day a week at sales, rest of week is spent at home pottering on cleaning cars (selling sometimes ! )  / tinkering with the westy playing golf  :t-up:  :t-up:  Your earnings will depend on what you want to put into it, I choose to sell cheaper and do volume rather than retailing cars..

I make enough to get by but If I wanted to work more /sell dearer you could end up with a very good income, I choose not to as some things in my personal life  have taught me there is more to life than working and If you are unhappy I would look elsewhere,

I was in your predicament 10 years ago Id had enough , Im hot headed  :blush:   and without a thought I   just walked out the job , just got married ,we were  on buying a bigger house and swmbo was  8 months pregnant  , both of us without an income  , to say she hit the roof was an understatement :0  :0   Cant say its always been as easy as it is now but things have a habit of working out in the end  :t-up:  :t-up:

Or if you fancied a challenge , with a few courses and a bit of practice,whatabout  mobile paint business , I had one just  going round local garages / bits of private work doing smart repairs , that would make around  £300 per day, I did it for a year built it up and sold it to a pal, hes still doing it and does well, hes not a lazy as me and is booked up 4 months in advance..also  the lads doing the paintless dent removal are making more than that and there out lay is a set of rods and a car.no qualifications just needs loads of practice to get it right !!!

again work as hard as you want

good luck in what ever you decide  :t-up:

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