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I agree with Harv...again...

you wanna be carefull not to do that too often........**

** romour has it i have paid the club money this month too  :oops:

:0  :oops:  :t-up:  :D

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Yep Im certainly not saying its right to roll over, accept the fine and not question the legality, but I suspect if it came down to it in court, the judge is quite likely to conclude that the law as applied to motorcycles is equally relevent to cars (certainly in the case of visors and visibility, maybe less so with helmet construction), so rather than reinvent the wheel and have to formulate a new set of standards for such a minority segment of the automotive public, it would be far easier to simply take the existing bike legislation and apply that to cars as well.
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I agree, although it does depend on how the argument is presented. I strongly suspect that whilst the CPS lawyer may be well clued up on the law under which you are being prosecuted, he may not have done his research when the law is questioned in front of an impartial judge. This is where, if you can present a decent reasonable argument, you have a chance.
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there is no law ..hence what you changing ........???

there is currently no law that says you cannot wear a crash helmet in a car so therefore wearing a non uk legal one cannot be wrong?

thats the whole point??

if its a helmet that doesnt have approval for use in the uk then you cant wear it in a car on public roads in the uk.

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Just one more ingredient to add to the mix, I realise this is not directly relavant to the crux of this discussion..but.

As many of you will be aware, there is a fashion for 'privacy' glass in car windows. With the rules and regs on light transmission through the windscreen, drivers and front passenger window. This is the same as a legal bike visor tint set @ 50%.

There are quite a few traffic PC's carrying light meters, and there have certainly been quite a few tickets given for 'blacked out' front windows. This legally is an MOT failure, although many testers seem to let it pass, Plod is getting very keen on this one though....... Easy money for Gordon Brown.

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No-one is willing to stand up and be counted when there is a principle or a law that needs challenging.

I have done just that this very day,won my case against the CPS on what i regarded to be a trumped up motoring charge and a total p*ss take on their part.(read as "we can make a load of dosh on this one")

Would have been easy to have put a guilty plea in and took a hefty fine at the begining,but it`s the principle and i couldn`t let it go.

However although i won my case i have had to endure 18mths of stress and worry,faced up to the fact that a guilty verdict would have possibly cost me my job and the westfield would have had to go to pay the fine,legal fees have been substantial,2-3 grand and you don`t get that back if you win :bangshead: ..........but they did award me travel expenses and a couple of quid for parking :bangshead:

I tested the law and went up against the mighty cps and won,this time.

Was it worth it ...........YES

would i do it again..............DON`T KNOW,probably but i hope i never have to.

Curby and court on consecutive days,i`m bl**dy knackered.

Graham

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