RobC Posted March 27, 2006 Author Posted March 27, 2006 gonna try and see if I can get a copy of the V5 aswell just to cover every angle... Quote
RobC Posted March 27, 2006 Author Posted March 27, 2006 Been speaking to the salvage yard who have a record of the car... thankfully Quote
Rocky F Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 I to have been struggling to find the engine number on my zetec engine. I have a thread in Techie talk and copied part here: "Stu 999 you were right. I started getting nervous about the absence of the engine number so did some 'scratching about'. The area where the number should be had surface rust. I cleaned this rust off and still could not see a number. I was expecting to see a traditional stamp mark i.e indentation. I took some emery paper to the crankcase and spent the last couple of nights rubbing like a mad man! To my suprise I thought I could see a number appearing faintly. It took more rubbing to realise that the engine number was there but formed from a whole series of faint dots! Imagine trying to play 'join the dots up' after 8 years of road grime and corrosion. Well it looks my engine is pukka, although I don't think the number is still particularly clear but I can recognise what I believe to be a similar engine number from the VIN number I have. I say similar as the engine number to my understanding should be two letters followed by five numbers. On the engine I have four letters and five numbers. It would appear that the engine number 'dotted' onto the block actually contains a further two letters from the VIN number" Hope that helps. Quote
The Great Fandango Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 This thread does highlight that almighty flaw in the SVA system allowing the builder to plonk a bog standard pinto in for test day and then replace it with some gas gulping, high emissions lump as originally intended!... (1) Stolen engine therefore bypassed. (2) Emissions problems sorted (at least until next MOT day) I became a little worried when I took a better look at my Westfield's history. The SVA certificate I have is only a photocopy, and the engine number it states is the same as the engine number on the vehicle's V5 log book however... ... To date I have never managed to identify the engine number of my 2000cc Zetec, even though I know there are two places you commonly find it. SO!... I wrote to ford for more information regarding the number I did have on the documentation. Comes back as an old 1985 block (ie: not a Zetec) The story goes deeper... The chassis plate I have is still pristine, it was never attached to the chassis (I simply carry it in a folder with all the other documentation) You guys might be able to tell me, but does a chassis ID plate have to be fully attached to the chassis in order to pass the SVA? My next steps will be to check with the SVA station to make sure this car was indeed tested and not one of his other Westfields (as it wasn't his first build) Strangely, after saying all this I have no reason to doubt the original builder as I'd be able to trace him in a jiffy. He seemed extremely genuine, I've been to his house, I have a fully documented build including photos of in his garage, and photos of the finished car on the road. Sorry guys, got carried way! Waffle waffle waffle Quote
MAT1800 Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 This thread does highlight that almighty flaw in the SVA system allowing the builder to plonk a bog standard pinto in for test day and then replace it with some gas gulping, high emissions lump as originally intended!... SVA, and MOT tests more so are only tests of the vehicle on that day. Police and DOT people can still check a vehicle on the road side, say after being pulled for speeding, and declare it unroad worthy or worse. Although i'm not suggesting you personally should be worrried by that, of course.. Quote
perksy Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 You guys might be able to tell me, but does a chassis ID plate have to be fully attached to the chassis in order to pass the SVA? Had mine MOT'd the other week and this was the first thing He checked for He then proceeded to go over every inch of it No Coffee and "What does it rev to ?" this time Quote
Blatman Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 I wrote to ford for more information regarding the number I did have on the documentation. Comes back as an old 1985 block (ie: not a Zetec) Sound like all he's done is put the old engine number on the new engine to save him from having to post the V5 to the DVLA with a change of number notice. At best it just demonstrates a touch of laziness. However, it is NOT illegal *unless* he has done it to disguise a stolen engine. Otherwise the engine number is basically a random number that is unique to the block. It makes it easier to check that the numbers match the V5, but it's no guarantee of anything really, as you've realised. New Vauxhall (and I think Ford) blocks come supplied without a number so you can add you own, either from the old engine (as long as you scrap it *properly*) or any other number you want. This is also not illegal, and as long as the number is unique you can put what you like on it... Quote
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