engine numbers on a zetec silver top

[RobC]

too late for a cat...car is nearly finished for SVA... changing engine is going to be cheaper...although a pain in the  

Brilliant... and I thought things were going so well

[nikpro]

The engine number is used by Ford for parts identification; why wouldn't they stamp them; I believe it is a legal requirement as well?

P.S. The previous pic I posted was a new engine from Westfield.

Before you go to the trouble of engine swaps check with Ford if there is any reason why it wouldn't be stamped - the only possible I could think of is a new block but again I'm sure these are stamped.

[RobC]

right... scratched some of the paint away and I can make out the last 2 number but nothing else... so it looks like its been ground off.

[RobC]

at least I am finding this out before I get it tuned anyway... looking on the brighter side... but ultimately annoyed.

[Peter M]

Take a look at this ,scroll halfway down  .

engine identification

[RobC]

On the panel where the number should be I can make out a stamp of NGA on the topper most part of the plate... so making it a phase 1 or 2 engine...

I am going to get onto the salvage yard... hopefully they will have a record of the car it cam out of but without a V5 doc (which I don;t have) what else can I do?

Cheers for the new angle though

[nikpro]

If it looks like a grinder has been near it then there is only one reason for it!

As you say it's better to find out now.

Not sure if I believe the article on engine numbers.......according to this you can have two engines with the same number!

[RobC]

from the looks of the plate it just looks like the numbers have **cough** faded... going to ring the yard in the morning and see what they say...

[Mal]

I had a Zetec engine where the numbers were near impossible to read, so I gave the area a good scrub with a wire brush and smeared some black shoe polish over the area with my finger to make the characters readable.

Also, on the exhaust side of the cylinder head, just above the manifold and towards the rear is a month indicator ring with two digits for the year cast in the centre. There is no gaurantee that the head has not been changed, but it is a good indicator. Likewise there are date indicators on the inside of the timing belt covers, but these are very easily changed.

Mal.

[RobC]

yeah tried something similar to that... I am guessing though that to get prove of age I will need a full engine number to get a nice letter from Ford... just supplying the first 2 letters ain't going to work...surely

[Blatman]

Blocks without numbers are usually bare blocks bought from OEM *or* aftermarket suppliers. NOTE, that's blocks *only*, not complete, ready to go recon engines. Nothing unusual in that IME. It means that if you are doing the engine work yourself, you simply stamp on the engine number from the engine that you're scrapping. Nothing illegal or dodgy about that at all. Vauxhall engine blocks are supplied without numbers. Ideally you need a copy of the V5 of the car the engine came from. If you can't get that, then reg number will be the next best thing.

IF the scrappy OR the previous owner has followed the rules, one of them will have notified the DVLA that the vehicle was scrapped. You *should* be able to write to them telling them that you've bought the engine from the scrapped vehicle for a kit car and you need a copy of the V5 for SVA purposes as proof of the age of the engine. Yes it'll be tedious, but it'll be cheaper than buying another engine with a V5.

I really wouldn't be assuming the worst and that it's a nicked or dodgy engine. The possibility does exist, but you're a long way from knowing that for sure.

[Peter M]

Here's a previous thread regarding engine age.

clicky

[nikpro]

There you go then,

thats a more comforting answer; the possibility obviously does exist.

[RobC]

Right then I have a reg and an engine number....  Just need to strip the car down and stamp it where it should be... Hurray!

[RobC]

Cheers for all the help............. panic over