New Westfield launch - 9th August- PistonHeads Annual Service @ Bicester Motion

[DIY-Si]

I'll put money on it being a tuned 2L Duratec (maybe by Cosworth from a rumour I've heard, so far from concrete), and brand new engines too, as I believe the factory need to be able to produce 100% new vehicles.

 

Otherwise, I can only agree with others expressing their disappointment at how little the club have been told about this ahead of the preview. I understand that existing owners maybe make a poor target audience for selling a new car, but there's a lot of value in word of mouth and opinion.

 

I'm still waiting on the new XI that was supposed to be here last year as well!

[marcusb]

29 minutes ago, DIY-Si said:

I'll put money on it being a tuned 2L Duratec 

A Westfield R500 then!

[Hedley Bennett (HB46443) - Club Chairman]

3 hours ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) said:

The original brief the factory gave was for the top engine option to be ~2 litre, 16 valve, high reving 8k plus, or thereabouts and NA. 
 

Be interesting to see how much, if any of that’s been carried through.

Rumours linking BMW engines. No specifics. 

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman)]

Yeah, can’t help noticing a BMW lurking in the background of a few of their photos surrounding the project…

[Martin Bell - (Bellyboy) East Anglia AO]

Please let there be an r53 engined version

[LoneWolf]

5 hours ago, Hedley Bennett (HB46443) - Club Chairman said:

Rumours linking BMW engines. No specifics. 

There are no NA engines in the current BMW lineup tho...

[dvd8n]

I can't see that being a good choice BMW engines don't exactly have a reputation for simplicity. 

 

 

[Hedley Bennett (HB46443) - Club Chairman]

2 minutes ago, dvd8n said:

I can't see that being a good choice BMW engines don't exactly have a reputation for simplicity. 

 

 

I was just writing my justification for using BMW. Power variants Turbocharged Supercharged. Then this image made me stop. Guess we will have to wait for our spies on the ground tomorrow. @Quinten 

 

betting to follow!

[dvd8n]

The biggest clue may just be to have a look at what's available on the Power Torque Engineering website 😉

 

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[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman)]

Don’t forget, if this is the model range the factory is changing over to for their future cars, they will need entry level engines versions too. These could well end up having to be the small capacity turbo engines, just because that’s what available new.

 

One of the benefits of the original engine range they were looking at, a few years back was that it was somewhat modular, and although produced by a relatively small volume manufacturer was, I understand, derived from a proper mainstream production engine, no longer supplied/used by the original car maker. (I guess someone bought the rights and tooling, and developed their own version from there).

 

But be in no doubt, if you went to an engine tuner and asked for the sort of spec originally talked about for their future cars top engine, back when the project began, you’d be handing over upwards of £10k if not £15k + at today’s prices, just on the motor!

 

So what they’ve planned now, only time will tell. Though I believe there was still a preference for a 2 litre, NA engine, the world of cars has change a lot since then, and it may not be practical.

 

Dont forget, in order to sell New fully built Westfields, with brand new licence plates, they need a brand new engine from a crate supplier or equivalent. That’s why the Mega S2000 was always an enthusiasts car rather than the top Westfield model. You could only fit second hand engines. It’s also why they had to use the 2 litre ecoboost, which could be purchased brand new from a trade supplier like Power Torque, rather than the 1.6 Ecoboost, which from a technical and installation point of view made more sense, but couldn’t be bought brand new in the trade.

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman)]

8 minutes ago, dvd8n said:

The biggest clue may just be to have a look at what's available on the Power Torque Engineering website 😉

 

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Other suppliers are available, too. The first option they were perusing was not via Power Torque. Though that would probably be the path of least resistance!

[MattV]

14 minutes ago, dvd8n said:

The biggest clue may just be to have a look at what's available on the Power Torque Engineering website 😉

 

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So the Duratec is still available and would meet most, if not all of the previously outlined requirements (couple of tweaks would see one spin to over 8k I would have thought?)

 

also leaves open the idea that the exhaust primaries we saw on the teaser might be mirrored on the other side and we get a new SEight….🤞🏻😂

 

[DeanMegaS2000]

The Millington Diamond range, 2.0 - 2.8L, NA, used in the MSRT escorts. Will sit straight into a westfield.