WESTFIELD SEIGHT 4.6 JOHN EALES ENG. REDUCED PRICE.

[Neil Preston]

Westfield Seight for sale. Built 2003 now on 16,800 miles. Motd until 20/5/26 no advisories. £14,950.

4.6 V8 fuel injection John Eales Developments engine. Dyno sheet for 240bhp and 290ft lbs torque. (200ft lbs at 1000rpm). Full 2 x 4 branch stainless underslung exhaust system plus an extra spare stainless (noisier) back half system. Car does not require a CAT and emissions do not need testing at mot time.

Cream bodywork with black and grey interior. Contour dash and glovebox. Full weather gear plus wind deflectors. Custom made boot bag which can accommodate the hood, side screens plus extras. Heater for screen and interior. Momo steering wheel. RAC type rollbar. Rear valance (not fitted at present). High level brake light. Omex shifter light.

Nitron wide track adjustable suspension units. Lsd. Alloy uprights. 4 pot front calipers, with vented discs. 15 inch Team Dynamics wheels with nearly new Toyo Proxes TR1 tyres.

Also available to purchase is an extra set of 4 Team Dynamics 15 inch wheels with Toyo Proxes R888 tyres.

Road tax is £198 for 6 months and insurance for me is £200 per annum.

Contact Neil  via email neil868@hotmail.co.uk

 

[Barrie Giles]

Very interested. Have just rejoined club after selling my Westy V8 2 years ago. Need another one!

Barrie Giles 07967557958

[joolz]

How does it not need a cat or emissions testing?

[AndrewBClarke]

1 hour ago, joolz said:

How does it not need a cat or emissions testing?

Mine is 2009 - not a Q reg. V5 states ‘visual check only’. Pre registered with a v8 3.5ltr. 

[KevanP]

@Tim Essex this guys after a Seight???

[harrypotter]

On 13/09/2025 at 11:26, AndrewBClarke said:

Mine is 2009 - not a Q reg. V5 states ‘visual check only’. Pre registered with a v8 3.5ltr. 

I'm intrigued. Do you have an age related plate indicating the year 2009, or is it related to the age of the engine?

[AndrewBClarke]

43 minutes ago, harrypotter said:

I'm intrigued. Do you have an age related plate indicating the year 2009, or is it related to the age of the engine?

Pre registered with an age related plate as a 2009 car with one refurbished part - the engine - otherwise all new. 

[joolz]

You see this is what I don't understand .. this is the rules as far as I can work out

 

If the engine is older than the vehicle

Vehicle first used before Sept 1, 2002: 

The car is tested to the emissions standards that apply to the age of the engine. You must have proof of the engine's age to present to the testing station.

Example: 

A 1995 car fitted with a 1991 engine will be tested to 1991 emissions standards. 

If the engine is newer than the vehicle

Vehicle first used on or after Sept 1, 2002: The car will be tested to the emissions standards of the vehicle's age, not the engine's. 

 

So how do they get away with no cat test? If it's a 2009 car you need a cat test ?  I'm obviously missing something  :shout:  Martyn Vann can you shed any light on it ?

[Martyn Vann - Warwickshire AO]

@joolz you are referring to engine changes on production cars already registered, not new build, non registered, kit cars!

 

The answer is in my emissions flow chart in the FAQ general info. This also based on chart 2 of the gaseous emissions section of the manual. If you look at either of these flow charts you will see a pre 1st Aug 1995 date that leads to a non cat test. This is what DVSA have used at IVA to assign the emissions standard to the engine fitted to a 'new' kit car.

 

I believe that Westfield Sportscars were supplied with new V8 engines manufactured before the 1995 date to fit to the factory built Seights for many years into this century. This has been investigated by Phil @RickRack for his car.

 

 

[Barrie Giles]

I still want a Westfield V8, nothing else, but am still looking.

I sold mine last year and regret it. The emissions issue I thought I understood but it's become confusing.

Please pm if you can clarify why a V8 post-2001 car can escape MOT emission tests, first registered 2003 with a new engine

[harrypotter]

6 hours ago, AndrewBClarke said:

Pre registered with an age related plate as a 2009 car with one refurbished part - the engine - otherwise all new. 

Sorry to keep asking, but what do you mean by ‘pre’ registration? 
is the car on an 2009 plate? 

What is the proven age of the engine? 
All info helps to get an accurate picture of what is required for Mot purposes. 
Thanks. 
 

[harrypotter]

3 hours ago, Martyn Vann - Warwickshire AO said:

@joolz you are referring to engine changes on production cars already registered, not new build, non registered, kit cars!

 

The answer is in my emissions flow chart in the FAQ general info. This also based on chart 2 of the gaseous emissions section of the manual. If you look at either of these flow charts you will see a pre 1st Aug 1995 date that leads to a non cat test. This is what DVSA have used at IVA to assign the emissions standard to the engine fitted to a 'new' kit car.

 

I believe that Westfield Sportscars were supplied with new V8 engines manufactured before the 1995 date to fit to the factory built Seights for many years into this century. This has been investigated by Phil @RickRack for his car.

 

 

Hi Martyn. 
so is it always the date of the engine that determines emissions on a kit car? 

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman)]

1 hour ago, harrypotter said:

Hi Martyn. 
so is it always the date of the engine that determines emissions on a kit car? 

Proven date, yes.

 

But supplying the acceptable proof to the DVSA in advance of the IVA can be the tricky part. Many car manufacturers in the past had departments you could contact, with the engine number, and (usually for a fee) they would supply a letter with the info from their records on when that engine was made. I don’t know if it’s still the case, but Burtons used to include a “cheat sheet” in their catalogue, of how to decode engine manufacturing dates from Ford engine numbers, again, this used to be admissible.

 

One thing you do have to be careful of in these discussions, is that people conflate IVA emissions requirements and MoT emissions requirements, when they’re subtly different. But once IVA has set the limit on the car as tested, that’s what you’re working with going forward. (Which is obviously also why Q’s are so beneficial, compared to year reg’s.)

 

if, at IVA, if you cannot prove the engines age in an acceptable way, then it will be tested to current standards, which will then, (unless the car’s on a Q), set the emissions test for the car, going forward.

 

 

[harrypotter]

3 minutes ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) said:

Proven date, yes.

 

But supplying the acceptable proof to the DVSA in advance of the IVA can be the tricky part. Many car manufacturers in the past had departments you could contact, with the engine number, and (usually for a fee) they would supply a letter with the info from their records on when that engine was made. I don’t know if it’s still the case, but Burtons used to include a “cheat sheet” in their catalogue, of how to decode engine manufacturing dates from Ford engine numbers, again, this used to be admissible.

 

One thing you do have to be careful of in these discussions, is that people conflate IVA emissions requirements and MoT emissions requirements, when they’re subtly different. But once IVA has set the limit on the car as tested, that’s what you’re working with going forward. (Which is obviously also why Q’s are so beneficial, compared to year reg’s.)

 

if, at IVA, if you cannot prove the engines age in an acceptable way, then it will be tested to current standards, which will then, (unless the car’s on a Q), set the emissions test for the car, going forward.

 

 

So how can you tell what the situation is with any particular kit car once it’s registered? 

[Martyn Vann - Warwickshire AO]

3 minutes ago, harrypotter said:

So how can you tell what the situation is with any particular kit car once it’s registered? 

@harrypotter I would refer you to my FAQ MOT emissions thread. This covers V5c notes Q plates and registration dates.

https://forum.wscc.co.uk/forum/topic/140737-what-are-the-mot-emissions-for-a-westfieldkit-car/?do=getNewComment