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Stuart Davis AO - Devon Cornwall & Somerset

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this was mine - pretty happy with that considering it was a 2.0 zetec with a full cage. 

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14 minutes ago, Kingster said:

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this was mine - pretty happy with that considering it was a 2.0 zetec with a full cage. 


That is excellent with a cage!

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37 minutes ago, Kingster said:

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this was mine - pretty happy with that considering it was a 2.0 zetec with a full cage. 

 

That's excellent for that spec car. I have same but turbocharged, I reckon mine is a lot more than 554kgs! 

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If you haven't already seen it, this is an interesting watch from Turn7 (similar to Toybox but for Caterhams).

 

 

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2 hours ago, Rob Hunter - Club Secretary said:

If you haven't already seen it, this is an interesting watch from Turn7 (similar to Toybox but for Caterhams).

 

 

I won't mention my car is 647kg, then @Rob Hunter - Club Secretary

 

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Didn't expect fat-shaming on here 🤦‍♂️

 

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So a 420R actually has a power to weight of about 363bhp/tonne. No wonder they are slow 😂 (kidding)

 

We all know Caterham have 'allowed' people to think the car's name/designation ie 420 is the power to weight. Nice sales ploy I'll give them that. 

 

I'm hoping to get mine down to around the same figure as yours

@Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO

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9 minutes ago, Flying Carrot Steve said:

So a 420R actually has a power to weight of about 363bhp/tonne. No wonder they are slow 😂 (kidding)

 

We all know Caterham have 'allowed' people to think the car's name/designation ie 420 is the power to weight. Nice sales ploy I'll give them that. 

 

They cheat slightly and use the dry weight (no fluids!), which isn't too realistic! You're welcome to correct any mislabled Caterham products with a sticker should you see any. Public service etc.

 

9 minutes ago, Flying Carrot Steve said:

 

I'm hoping to get mine down to around the same figure as yours

@Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO

 

What's the plan?

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On 18/08/2024 at 02:11, Flying Carrot Steve said:

Some very light cars there! And a few big lads too looking at the figs. 

 

Found this in an old Westfield World

 

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We have our annual weigh-in at our next Essex meet (8th Sept), so be interesting to see what ours weigh this time around, some including mine have changed quite a bit.

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2 hours ago, Rob Hunter - Club Secretary said:

If you haven't already seen it, this is an interesting watch from Turn7 (similar to Toybox but for Caterhams).

 

 


Thanks Rob, interesting stuff.

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1 hour ago, Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO said:

 

They cheat slightly and use the dry weight (no fluids!), which isn't too realistic! You're welcome to correct any mislabled Caterham products with a sticker should you see any. Public service etc.

 

 

What's the plan?

 

Lightweight Jack Webb Motorsport LiFePo4 battery about to go in, then after that either grp or carbon seats to replace the sport turbo ones I currently have.

 

I reckon that's going to save me at least 20kgs? Possibly a bit more. After that I need to get it properly weighed as I'm not entirely sure what it currently is.

 

I had it on the local council weighbridge which only did one axle at a time. With a full tank of fuel it said it was 670kgs. I assumed it was correct but now am not so sure. 

 

I weighed the car myself using a 200kgs scale and equal thickness blocks of wood, one corner at a time. It came in at 644.7kgs. I suspect it may be somewhere between the two so need to get it on some proper scales. Also it would tell me how well I did with my in-garage bathroom scales weighing attempt. That way I'll know if it's worth doing in future with any mates cars.

 

After the seats and battery I'm not sure how much further I will go. My front wings need replacing at some point so no doubt will go carbon but after that I doubt I'll do any more lightening. 

 

I'd rather spend money on driver training tbh as the car has more ability than I can handle atm. Some track day driving lessons would be of more benefit than more carbon for me I think. 

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1 hour ago, KevanP said:

 

We have our annual weigh-in at our next Essex meet (8th Sept), so be interesting to see what ours weigh this time around, some including mine have changed quite a bit.

 

Please post the results!  👍

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2 minutes ago, Flying Carrot Steve said:

 

Lightweight Jack Webb Motorsport LiFePo4 battery about to go in, then after that either grp or carbon seats to replace the sport turbo ones I currently have.

 

I reckon that's going to save me at least 20kgs? Possibly a bit more. After that I need to get it properly weighed as I'm not entirely sure what it currently is.

 

I had it on the local council weighbridge which only did one axle at a time. With a full tank of fuel it said it was 670kgs. I assumed it was correct but now am not so sure. 

 

I weighed the car myself using a 200kgs scale and equal thickness blocks of wood, one corner at a time. It came in at 644.7kgs. I suspect it may be somewhere between the two so need to get it on some proper scales. Also it would tell me how well I did with my in-garage bathroom scales weighing attempt. That way I'll know if it's worth doing in future with any mates cars.

 

After the seats and battery I'm not sure how much further I will go. My front wings need replacing at some point so no doubt will go carbon but after that I doubt I'll do any more lightening. 

 

I'd rather spend money on driver training tbh as the car has more ability than I can handle atm. Some track day driving lessons would be of more benefit than more carbon for me I think. 

 

Oh yeah, I've also replaced the large and heavy fire extinguisher with a Fire Safety Stick, that's saved me 3.4kgs. It's all adding up @Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO

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My factory 2005 Sigma engined car comes in at 549.5kg, within a kg it's corner weighted across the axles with 49:51% front:rear weight distribution. That's with 1/4 tank of fuel (gauge indicated, so most likely a random volume), factory wheels, sport seats and carpet.

 

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51 minutes ago, GaryH said:

My factory 2005 Sigma engined car comes in at 549.5kg, within a kg it's corner weighted across the axles with 49:51% front:rear weight distribution. That's with 1/4 tank of fuel (gauge indicated, so most likely a random volume), factory wheels, sport seats and carpet.

 

Gary

The sigma engine is a good 20kg lighter than a zetec, so it’s a great choice for weight saving 👍

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20 minutes ago, Kingster said:

The sigma engine is a good 20kg lighter than a zetec, so it’s a great choice for weight saving 👍


Any idea how a 1.7 crossflow compares with that?

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