corsechris Posted March 2 Posted March 2 9 hours ago, Paul Baker - Bristol Bath and Cotswold AO said: Having just paid for a year’s tax for my Westfield I can’t believe the cost now - £345 ! I swear it was much less than that a few years ago. I assume we’re all paying the same, or something similar, and I’m not missing a trick? Just annual increases, but it adds up. Quote
Ansoeb Posted March 2 Posted March 2 9 hours ago, Paul Baker - Bristol Bath and Cotswold AO said: Having just paid for a year’s tax for my Westfield I can’t believe the cost now - £345 ! I swear it was much less than that a few years ago. I assume we’re all paying the same, or something similar, and I’m not missing a trick? Yip, my 2018 registered Zetec must be in the same Co2 bracket as you, but being up north I only tax mine for 6 or 7 months. Quote
corsechris Posted March 2 Posted March 2 Just checked back in my records... 2019 £265, 2020 £270, 2021 £280 2022 £295 2023 £325 2024 £345 ...and as Stuart says, £360 for PLG band 2 from April this year. Quote
joolz Posted March 2 Posted March 2 I've never understood why car manufacturers aren't pressured into making at least 95 percent of their new cars under a certain weight and size ie town car size - ford ka and vw up sizes. If very few new cars were lardy suv types then people couldn't buy them. Then of course there's the point that there's no cleaner car than one that's already built... so capping new car production outright would be the best eco move ever.. but that would never happen.. so we have fields full of new cars and all the environmental issues that goes hand in hand with modern ev car production. It's ludicrous. Quote
jeff oakley Posted March 2 Posted March 2 1 hour ago, joolz said: I've never understood why car manufacturers aren't pressured into making at least 95 percent of their new cars under a certain weight and size ie town car size - ford ka and vw up sizes. If very few new cars were lardy suv types then people couldn't buy them. Then of course there's the point that there's no cleaner car than one that's already built... so capping new car production outright would be the best eco move ever.. but that would never happen.. so we have fields full of new cars and all the environmental issues that goes hand in hand with modern ev car production. It's ludicrous. I disagree with they way cars are seen as a cash cow and any restrictions on what we can buy has consequences. At present manufacturers have a maximum percentage of cars they sell allowed to be ICE powered. If they exceed that for every one the sell in the UK it is a £15k fine so manufactures are caught with EV's that the majority of private buyers do not want and an inability to sell what they want at a profit. People like the space and perceived safety of SUV size vehicles and already government and councils are trying to change buying habits not by proving the worth of EV but by restricting them financially, extra new car tax, extra VED workplace parking schemes and some councils charging you more for a residents parking permit if it does not fir their criteria. All the time people hanging on to older vehicles, not buying used EV's due to fear and lack of charging facilities especially for those who live in flats. VED will only ever go up and up and then we will get a mileage charge. pence per mile, which again will be stilted to promote EV use. Hobby cars like ours do not feature in any thoughts as if we can afford them we can afford to pay more VED even though the mileage is less. Net zero is the gift that keeps on giving 1 Quote
dvd8n Posted March 2 Posted March 2 6 hours ago, jeff oakley said: If they exceed that for every one the sell in the UK it is a £15k fine That's likely just to transform itself into an ice car tax if electric cars don't become more popular. Quote
Rhett Turner - Black Country AO Posted March 3 Posted March 3 On 23/01/2025 at 09:31, corsechris said: stupidity of focussing on 0-60 times My understanding is that with EVs the fast 0-60 times are also a by product of the ability to regenerate electricity. In striving for the best regen performance handily they also get eye catching acceleration. Quote
DamperMan Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Best not apply logic… just a way of taxing us… Any excuse of to squeeze a little more out of us… The taxes raised are not spent to counter the reasons/justification for the taxes. Quote
Flying Carrot Steve Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Just taxed The Flying Carrot, paid monthly it's £30.18 or £362.25pa. It definitely has gone up recently. I've argued the case for years that road tax should be based on the amount of miles you do, not emissions (it is not based on emissions for all cars though, it depends upon the year of the car) Put simply, whatever emissions bracket a car is in, if you do zero mileage then the emissions are zero, so the system was basically flawed from the off! A classic example is my 2010 Jag XK 5.0 N/A. Top tax bracket. But so is the XKR or XKR-S with a lot more power. I did 700 miles between the last MOTs, my road tax is £65 odd A MONTH! So I paid around £1.10 a mile even before I started the damned engine, it just ain't right is it! Pretty sure I read somewhere recently that they are considering changing it from emissions based to some other system. For low mileage use cars they really do need to come up with something better. 1 Quote
jeff oakley Posted March 4 Posted March 4 22 hours ago, Flying Carrot Steve said: Just taxed The Flying Carrot, paid monthly it's £30.18 or £362.25pa. It definitely has gone up recently. I've argued the case for years that road tax should be based on the amount of miles you do, not emissions (it is not based on emissions for all cars though, it depends upon the year of the car) Put simply, whatever emissions bracket a car is in, if you do zero mileage then the emissions are zero, so the system was basically flawed from the off! A classic example is my 2010 Jag XK 5.0 N/A. Top tax bracket. But so is the XKR or XKR-S with a lot more power. I did 700 miles between the last MOTs, my road tax is £65 odd A MONTH! So I paid around £1.10 a mile even before I started the damned engine, it just ain't right is it! Pretty sure I read somewhere recently that they are considering changing it from emissions based to some other system. For low mileage use cars they really do need to come up with something better. The problem is you are trying to be logical and fair, the government is not. The reason they have increased the road tax on EV's which were free is due to the drop in revenue from fuel duty as more have moved over to EV for one reason or another. When more inevitably do the same road pricing is the next thing. Now a simple way would be to get the MOT station to send the mileage to DVLA who would then send a bill, but they won't as they will roll out evermore cameras so they can do charging in time zones. So peak time highest tariff and no doubt other times will be flexed like bank holidays to catch more cash. They can then adjust the charging as they see fit to fill the coffers. The days of cheap motoring will soon be a distant memory 1 Quote
Flying Carrot Steve Posted March 4 Posted March 4 4 hours ago, jeff oakley said: The days of cheap motoring will soon be a distant memory I reckon they already are tbh. 1 Quote
CosKev Posted March 5 Posted March 5 On 02/03/2025 at 08:15, Ansoeb said: Yip, my 2018 registered Zetec must be in the same Co2 bracket as you, but being up north I only tax mine for 6 or 7 months. All kit cars are PLG,non are charged VED on emmisions 👍 Quote
corsechris Posted March 5 Posted March 5 15 minutes ago, adrian s said: My 2009 megablade is £195 for a years road rent That’s the under 1549cc PLG rate isn’t it? Although I thought it was £210 at the moment? 1 Quote
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