clansman Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Blimey just got the vehicle tax reminder in for the Westfield !!!! Since when was it £325 for a year ......for a 25yr old car WTAF. Anybody else had the same? Can this be argued?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamperMan Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I'm with you on your centiment. It annoys me no end. As such I now tax the camper and westfield monthly and cancel the tax as soon as it looks like i'm not going to use it, and hang on to the latest opertunity in spring to tax them again. Most vehicles like this only do a few 1000 miles per year. Where as my daily does loads of miles, the Emissions won't be genuine, and it costs about a 3rd the amount in tax. You'd think they was trying to extort money from us!... I can't drive more than one car at once!.. The only fair way would be to simply add the cost to fuel.. But they've alrady done that already, just forgot to stop taking vehicle tax as well. Or why not have limited milage tax, we do it with the insurance. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd8n Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Yes, mine's £325 for a year for an '09 1600 Sigma. My litre turbocharged 2011 Audi is only £265 for some reason. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Ditto... And the worst bit I re-taxed it 6 months ago, and the car hasn't turned a wheel. Is it time to scrap this method of taxation?, I know what I would do if it were, what would you like instead of it - of course is answer is nothing... but that's never going to happen is it?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 All paving the way to road charging/pay per mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd8n Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman said: All paving the way to road charging/pay per mile. They'll do that and keep the road tax D 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman said: All paving the way to road charging/pay per mile. AS long as the duty on fuel is scrapped as well, yes maybe the best way. But again , that's not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I am going to go back to DD next time around, I know you pay more, but I will save in the long run as these days I am rarely well enough to drive, but for when I am I love taking the car out. The war on the motorist will continue. A good friend did let slip the other evening that the Gov had been proposing a full UK wide 20 mph limit ( in previous 30 mph zones) but due to public opinion in both Wales and the Wirral, those plans are likely to be scrapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 39 minutes ago, Richard (OldStager) said: yes maybe the best way Be careful what you wish for, and the law of unintended consequences. Like along with your invoice for travelling x miles along the listed roads a note that your speed exceeded limits over certain sections and that a separate invoice is on it's way for those offences.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Yeah, that's the problem isn't it. Although thinking about it, the Gov currently are unable to provide adequate infrastructure to chrgare EV's, so quite how they would track every single car on every single road is a way off. Not sure if to mention this at risk of being banned, lol. But my half brother works for a company in Preston who supply, build and fit these Ulez and ANPR cameras, he admitted yesterday that he has had a hand in pretty much all of the North West's units - I may dis-own him, lol. I have just asked him, in his opinion exactly how many camera systems need to be installed for a Pay per Mile to actually make the a viable way of tracking vehicles and how many are fitted now. Will let you know when he gets back to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Algar - Competition Secretary Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 They have deliberately called it VED ( Vehicle Excise Duty) a while ago, so that's it's got nothing to do with the Road and everything to do with taxing you more and more. Whilst if seems more sensible to hope for a tax per mile as @Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman has said be careful what you wish for Personally I've always thought the best way is just to add whatever VED raises and add it to the Petrol & Diesel sold for Road use, has the advantage that it really will hit the highest using vehicles, by implication most polluting maybe. But also it will then reduce the amount of administrative cost associated with VED. But I do also think it's a good idea to say charge a nominal fee for Car registration, to allow cars to be used on the road, keeps track of who owns which cars, that is otherwise easily lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff oakley Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 The problem with your idea Nick is that it will raise less in some areas. My mum when she was alive had a fiesta she did exactly three miles per week, once to the shops and back. And there are lots who do low mileage like she did. They will keep ratcheting the costs up on older ICE cars and vans so that they can avoid charging electric car owners sooner than planned. It is due to come in from 2025 onwards at £165 for cars up to £40k and £355 for those over. Road pricing is where they are going and it works in France where there is a choice of fast motorways which you pay for or the old roads which are still fantastic here it will not The hatred for all cars now has become beyond a joke. The latest is the campaign to stop rubber particulates as they are just as bad a diesel fumes, allegedly. My advice is enjoy what we have whilst we have it as nothing would surprise me to milk us for more or restrict us so the rich and powerful are the only ones not forced onto a bus comrade!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewan Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 On 05/10/2023 at 14:34, clansman said: Blimey just got the vehicle tax reminder in for the Westfield !!!! Since when was it £325 for a year ......for a 25yr old car WTAF. Anybody else had the same? Can this be argued?? Same for my 30 year old V8 (SEiGHT). On the upside, only 10 years to wait until it’s free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Parker (Red Spider) - Yorkshire AO Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Same for me, £325 for the Westfield, but only £20 for my diesel Alfa Romeo. The Westfield is 32 years old, but on a Q plate, will this become tax exempt? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evosteve Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 No tax exemption for any Q plate, whatever the age. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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