Ragtop Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hi Guys - I am being reeeealy indecisive at the moment. I have fitted the diff (3.92), fitted new seals and gaskets to the type 9 box and just started to strip the 2.0 inj pinto when indecision struck. Do I spend money on the pinto re-bore, new cam,dissy etc etc OR do I by a decent s/hand 2.0 Zetec. Any ideas regarding fitting the zetec to a type 9 and modifying the OHC loom which I have now fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Assuming you are handy with a multimeter, and a set of spanners, modifying the loom will be easy. Type 9 bolts straight to a Zetec, so get the Zetec, or better yet, a Duratec....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfieldman Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 or better yet, a Duratec....... Seen the light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfields Rock On Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 i reckon you should get a duratec. I heard this crazy guy in a shady pub up north saying you can get 280bhp from them. I think he was talking b*****k though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfields Rock On Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 bald fella he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfieldman Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Is Mr Mountune Bald? 280bhp Mountune I4 Ford Duratec HE engine Ref: DI4280 At 280bhp this is a true "touring car" spec. engine at a fraction of the cost of a full 'works' unit. This fully built engine package is supplied on a brand new base unit. The price shown includes parts, engine management, labour, dyno test and the base engine. Full detailed specifications are available from mountune Sales. Price: £12,600.00 (Excluding: VAT at 17.5%, delivery and shipping) Please contact us by phone, fax or e-mail to order this product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfields Rock On Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 dunno, who ever the fella was he was past is sell by date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Seen the light? Er..... I've never criticised the Duratec. It may well be the thing to replace the Cossie in my sprint car, but I'm waiting 'til developement is more advanced than it is right now, and for the parts to be produced in larger numbers for less money....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felters Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Pinto vs Zetec? Dunno... I'd ring my local mini cab firm and get their views, they'd have a lot of experience of both. 280bhp?£16 grand on an engine? With a life of how many hours? I know you Northerners have more disposable income than us down here but... I'd have thought that the best reason for going for Duratec is that it's a lot lighter than a Zetec or Pinto. Still heavier than a 4Age though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfieldman Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 It may well be the thing to replace the Cossie in my sprint car, but I'm waiting 'til developement is more advanced than it is right now, and for the parts to be produced in larger numbers for less money....... Which bits are too much money for you Blatters Induction and exhaust will be the same for any engine Its only Bell housing cams pistons and rods That are possiably more money the dry sump from pace is about the same price as all the others. All the little ansillaries are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Seabrook Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Pinto vs Zetec? Dunno... I'd ring my local mini cab firm and get their views, they'd have a lot of experience of both.280bhp?£16 grand on an engine? With a life of how many hours? I know you Northerners have more disposable income than us down here but... I'd have thought that the best reason for going for Duratec is that it's a lot lighter than a Zetec or Pinto. Still heavier than a 4Age though Think you may find that the Ford motor is not much heavier than the Toyota. It’s also about 50bhp more powerful when a good exhaust and throttle bodies are fitted than a similar specked Toyota. Sorry I think I would fit the Duratec and leave Toyota on that score. Good little engine though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Its only Bell housing cams pistons and rod And there's the rub. Pistons and rods aren't cheap to start with. With the rarity factor of a brand new developement, they'll be costing more now than when the 2 or 3 parts manufacturers have to start competing for custom. The number of tuned Duratec that are producing 230+bhp are few, and mostly un tried. I'll wait until they have a bit more running under their belts. If they prove reliable, that'll be one more tick on the list of things to tick. I'm certain that I don't want to contribute to the developement process and pay for the privelige........ My Cossie and Vx have both had long developments. Any parts I buy are proven, well manufactured, and I have a choice if supplier. There are very few "unknowns". This makes them a bit cheaper, and *much* less risky (for me) that the Duratec at the moment........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfieldman Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Had a look in the Burtons catalouge this morrning and the price for YB NA pistons and rods are the same price as was the cost of cams for the Duratec, so it is down to you not wanting to be part of the first few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conibear Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 The Duratec has been used as a performance engine at over 280bhp in the states for some time now so much R & D has been undertaken already, but obviously this will continue over here. My Duratec has a mild tune and produces 230bhp, although I'm still running it in, I cannot resist occasionally The car's performance is staggering compared to my previous Pinto 165bhp powered Tiger Super Six. I've fitted a Wet Sump kit to the Duratec, but long term it needs dry sumping which developement is currently be undertaken. The only concern I've currently got is cooling, but I've got to wait till a hot day on track for that. I would agree all Duratec parts are currently more expensive than Vx and Zetec's, but I couldn't wait. Hopefully in years to come you'll look at me and say he's the b*** that paid for all the Duratec R & D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CateringVan Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Pintos are nasty, horrid, crude, rough heavy things Zetecs are a lot better although i dont think they are a lot lighter (not sure about this one) Duratecs are miles better, but as a few have pointed out, are expensive. Speak to Ammo at http://www.raceco.com/ - he is doing a lot of work on the Duratec but he reckons its about £10K to fit one at the moment because of all the special bits you need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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