NickBW Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Hi all First trackday is on the 8th June and i am already trying to plan and get things sorted. One question i have is how do i tie my Westfield down securely to my BJ Minno trailer? Does anyone have any photos on the best way to do this? I have not ties a car to this trailer yet so i am conscious i need to get this right as i might get to Snet without a car to drive! I have 4 new straps but how do i securely tie the car down? Do i leave the handbrake on the westfield? I have normal 4tonne rated ratchet straps but have seen people use lasso straps. Would these be better? Thanks Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBW Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Am i better to get some Tyre Choker Straps? https://slingsandstraps.co.uk/products/soft-wheel-choker-link-straps-x-4?_pos=1&_sid=1598b992f&_ss=r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 34 minutes ago, NickBW said: Am i better to get some Tyre Choker Straps? https://slingsandstraps.co.uk/products/soft-wheel-choker-link-straps-x-4?_pos=1&_sid=1598b992f&_ss=r Those are certainly good to have, as they can then be used on any trailer, to secure the wheels. Personally, where it's your own trailer, and mainly used for the same car, I like the webbing bridge strap/Staple approach best, these bolt to the trailer, in front of each wheel that you want to tie down, they then let you feed the tie down strap underneath, before it runs up and over the tyre and down the other side. this way the straps are always tensioned down on the tyre's surface and there's no risk to bodywork, brake lines etc behind each wheel. I'll try and find a photo... I've not found the exact one yet, this uses extra hooks in place of the bridge straps, but shows you how the tie down goes over the wheel. Not a great image, but these are an example of the fixed type bridge straps you can bolt to the trailer, to feed the tie downs through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBW Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Secretary said: Those are certainly good to have, as they can then be used on any trailer, to secure the wheels. Personally, where it's your own trailer, and mainly used for the same car, I like the webbing bridge strap/Staple approach bes, these bolt to the trailer, in front of each wheel that you want to tie down, they then let you feed the tie down strap underneath, before it runs up and over the tyre and down the other side. this way the straps are always tensioned down on the tyre's surface and there's no risk to bodywork, brake lines etc behind each wheel. I'll try and find a photo... Great thanks. A photo will really help! Thanks Dave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKARM Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 This is how I do, handbrake on, in gear. With the winch on the front round the chassis. It’s very important to stop after a mile or two to check the straps are still tight. They can sometimes settle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKARM Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Oh and once it’s all strapped on, the most important step is to shake the car and say out loud “that’s not going anywhere” Do not miss out this key step. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Rush Motorsport said: This is how I do, handbrake on, in gear. With the winch on the front round the chassis. It’s very important to stop after a mile or two to check the straps are still tight. They can sometimes settle. So very, very true. And a very good reason for being in gear and handbrake on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBW Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Cheers chaps. So a couple of these will sort me right out?: https://gttowing.co.uk/product/car-trailer-transporter-strap-50mm-wheel-choke/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I use straps similar to Russ..however I don't attach winch to chassis as this is spring and needs independent movement so I presume Russ has it lose as a final safety measure.. Also at the end of the day, if you come off track and drive straight onto the trailer, do not put hand brake on then with the discs still potentially hot or warm.. wait until they cool before putting hand brake on... Not sure if you have standard belts or harness..but if harness make sure they are done up so buckles etc not flying around and damaging body work.. Also with the extra load in your car and trailer weight you made need a few psi in your car tyres... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy - a15cro Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I used to go across the wheel but now favour over the top as mentioned earlier. I purchased some additional hooks and it all feels very secure on 4 wheels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingster Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 heres mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Loudon - Sponsorship Liaison Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I would only strap the rear wheels to avoid stressing the suspension joints. The front can be anchored with a winch strap in the middle but not by the wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingster Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, John said: I would only strap the rear wheels to avoid stressing the suspension joints. The front can be anchored with a winch strap in the middle but not by the wheels Didn’t know that. Will do so from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve (sdh2903) Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 38 minutes ago, John said: I would only strap the rear wheels to avoid stressing the suspension joints. The front can be anchored with a winch strap in the middle but not by the wheels How would strapping the front wheels stress the suspension joints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Loudon - Sponsorship Liaison Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Steve (sdh2903) said: How would strapping the front wheels stress the suspension joints? ...because you are pulling the front and rear axles against each other and also by virtue of strapping both wheels on the same axles you are pulling them outwards in opposite directions (assuming you use the straps as shown in the pics above around the wheels). Over the top of the tyre on the rear axle worth is sufficient and the fronts wont move laterally or front / aft. When i had my Westfield had loops welded onto the corners of the chassis to hook the ends of a strap onto and didnt took the wheels at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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