Blatman Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I agree with the sentiment that if you haven't got anything to hide what's the problem. Nothing wrong there. My issue is that we ARE being taken advantage of, whether it's tracking cookies or GPS location or search history or whatever. I'm not bothered about my history revealing anything illegal. Morally questionable certainly but illegal, no. My issue is that all these services KNOW that we don't read the T's and C's so we are all sleepwalking into giving up more than we might want to. But these days that's unavoidable so I try to minimise what I knowingly give away. Does it make any difference? I like to think so but I am under no illusions here. I assume that everything I do is recoverable with the appropriate tools and a court order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 All true, shame more folks don't realise this, the tech age certainly changed things, for the better or worse depends on your point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen_I Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 All valid points, I had to try and explain to a friend who refused to download the NHS contact and trace app, he said I don't want anyone knowing what I am doing and where I am.......okay I said but you live on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and a couple of other sites, 'they' know exactly where you are as well as your habits just through social media..... Whilst I am no whizz kid with this stuff I do work for an American company and the nature of our work is producing data (albeit relating to motor trade), we have to do so many online security training assessments and these are an eye opener as to how easy it is to piece together enough info to build up a profile of someone as well as gaining access to personal information. @OldStager like you say, if you had forgotten a question you would've thought it would've thrown up a message? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Glen_I said: @OldStager like you say, if you had forgotten a question you would've thought it would've thrown up a message? I would like to think that would be the case yes. If you try and buy anything over the web and forget a box, it highlights it red and you can't proceed until the info is present. I would have thought the Gov website would work the same way. Many websites ask for a moblie phone number, they also ask for a landline one, I can fill in the landline one no problem, but not owning a mobile I often have to put my sisters number in just to continue. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD+PHILIP Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Blatman said: I agree with the sentiment that if you haven't got anything to hide what's the problem. Nothing wrong there. My issue is that we ARE being taken advantage of, whether it's tracking cookies or GPS location or search history or whatever. I'm not bothered about my history revealing anything illegal. Morally questionable certainly but illegal, no. My issue is that all these services KNOW that we don't read the T's and C's so we are all sleepwalking into giving up more than we might want to. But these days that's unavoidable so I try to minimise what I knowingly give away. Does it make any difference? I like to think so but I am under no illusions here. I assume that everything I do is recoverable with the appropriate tools and a court order. My name mostly seems to turn up ancient speed series results Llys- y-fran July 03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, RICHARD+PHILIP said: My name mostly seems to turn up ancient speed series results Llys- y-fran July 03 Yeah mine was on a few old results sheets as well, around the same time as yours as too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Me three. I keep seeing Wiscombe results... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man On The Clapham Omnibus Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I have been, until very recently, a director of various companies - none very significant recently - and if you're not careful your home address is easily discovered through companies house. As soon as I realised this I insisted on my address being that of the company secretary which avoided that problem. As I moved house since retirement all that has been purged from the records. Google my old Beaconsfield telephone number (long since defunct) my then-address came up until this year. We've always been ex-directory because my name is unique in UK. There's others with the surname and others with the forename but only me with the two together and that makes me easier to find. I appear on some searches because I was part of a local group resisting a mass development but there's no address. It is hard to remain low-profile but use your head and it's just possible I think. Date of birth and address seems to be all that's needed with some mail order companies to open and account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 I've moved house since my racing stopped, so I doubt that would be of any use to anyone even if they found the old address( and that house has been sold twice since) . Yeah it's all about be savvy to any info you give out these days, my sister doesn't get it sadly and still merrily post her daily life to social media - I have told her but she doesn't seem to care. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Man On The Clapham Omnibus said: There's others with the surname and others with the forename but only me with the two together and that makes me easier to find On the other hand, my two best mates growing up were John Lennon and Tony Stark, I kid you not. I'm still best mates with John. Starky moved to foreign climes some time ago. But there's no chance of tracking him down on Google or Facebook... As for staying under the radar, what I did find many many years ago was that when I stopped using my Tesco clubcard, my paper junk mail dropped MASSIVELY. I'm not suggesting that would be true today but it was so noticable I still remember it vividly when I realised what had changed. Plus there is now the mail preference service and along with that, if you want to stop anything that gets through, mark the envelope Return to Sender. Not Known at This Address. I believe companies are required to remove the names and addresses of RTS mail from their mailing databases. And of course the telephone preference service, although this is often "got around" by companies that use war dialling programmes. My second best annoyance resolution was I kept getting calls from a loft insulation "organisation" who would mention the available grants etc. I asked them to stop. I told them to stop. Eventually I gave up and said, yes please send a surveyor round I have money to spend. When they arrived at my ground floor flat... Suffice to say I've not heard from them since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 The return to sender not known bit , only seems to work for UK based companies. I used to get mail from Canada for the old owners, despite me sending it back with notes attached. After about 5 years of this I gave up and bought some glitter, they had a return envelope, in which I added the loose glitter with a note saying the persons you want don't live here anymore. Two years and no mail from Canada... There was a story a while back, where a girl using a clubcard in the states had a selection of pregnancy literature sent to her, she lived with her parents and they opened the letter. They complained to the supermarket saying she wasn't pregnant, after the daughter took a test she was found indeed to be preggers, the supermarket said after market research they could tell she was based on her shopping habits... True story. As for spam calls I got one of those anti cold caller ones, works a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 We're on TPS. I keep the wife's old school whistle by the phone for those who still call us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Stuart said: We're on TPS. I keep the wife's old school whistle by the phone for those who still call us LOL, yeah done that before. Or pretend I'm deaf, getting them repeat stuff 4 or 5 times, they soon get annoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I quite like trolling the scam callers. I have a load of VM's set up so they can access the machine and try and extort money from me by locking it or encrypting it or whatever. Keeps me amused. If you're in to that sort of thing then look up Jim Browning on Youtube. Very entertaining and he has some really great skills. Why do I waste my time with the scam calls? Well, while they're trying to steal from me they can't be preying on some other poor b*****r. It may be a futile effort but if I have the time then why not frustrate them as much as possible? Besdies I'm almost certain these people sell lists of numbers to each other. Selling numbers of unsuccesful calls is a way to defeat their competitors so failure breeds failure, sort of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard (OldStager) Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 My record for keeping one on the line was 28 mins, when those ' your PC has a virus' ones were doing the rounds. I kept mucking about telling them I've lost my glasses and can't see the screen ( I think this is why he held for so long !) asking him which icon is it again ?, oh the one on the left... is that your left or my left etc etc. He got really annoyed in the end and slammed his phone down. BUT I am the same, I have the time and if it saves the old boy over the road getting conned then I will carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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