Nick M Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Diesels have their place for sure, and are undoubtedly more sophisticated than 10-15 years ago, but don't forget the weight penalty that's lurking there. The engines tend to be heavier (they need to be bigger or turboted to produce the same power as a petrol engine) and diesel is heavier than petrol. I'd happily have one in my tin-top car, but I think they're a *looonnnng* way from being viable in a car like a Westfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Seabrook Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Part of the fun that I get from the Westy is the noise it makes. That would not happen with an oil burner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skid Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Good dumper truck engine if anyone is interested,single cylinder and wind up started ,one prev owner the council! Does not need a gearox it will pull away in top if you rev it to the limit , about 567 rpm . will be very good on diesel one fill up and you would never want to drive it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windy Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 The engines tend to be heavier (they need to be bigger or turboted to produce the same power as a petrol engine) and diesel is heavier than petrol. Old ones are heavy yes, but the new generation of diesels are ally blocked. The important issue here is that they have lots of torque and this in my opinion is far more significant for the way a car performs than power. This is also something which bike engines lack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrustyjust Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Ah,but I've got a 'vauxhall' diesel van.Thats where the torque and bhp senario ends...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timd Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 Old ones are heavy yes, but the new generation of diesels are ally blocked. The important issue here is that they have lots of torque and this in my opinion is far more significant for the way a car performs than power. This is also something which bike engines lack. Yawn... When you can buy a NA diesel engine with similar torque and power, along with all up engine+gbox weight, to a bike engine, then that might be a worthwhile comparison.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu999 Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 Timd, I think you you have just got got on that hook that is floating around the boardroom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timd Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 yup... That old tedious "no torque" argument doesn't bother me much anyway, my BEC has more torque than a lot of CECs anyway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stanton Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Here we go again on yer marks, get ready, go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Albert Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Now, if the rumours that Mazda's research into diesel rotaries are even half true, you lot, especially TimD, may be eating your hat (or your Bec) soon. 1300 cc, twin rotor, 7000 rpm, 150bhp in a package about the size of two footballs I knew side valve technology was the way forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timd Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Here we go again on yer marks, get ready, go Well, it is (was) xmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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