conibear Posted December 8, 2003 Author Posted December 8, 2003 Very nice Windy Is that an Shellfish catering van it's in, co's it looks as though there's two tubs of cockels on the scuttle shelf And are you sure the cam timings correct Ian Quote
Matt Seabrook Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 Just thought if anyone's considering doing a Duratec installation into a SEIW, then here's a couple of pictures of mine. At the bottom is how I did it and what the spec is. The engine developement was undertaken by Raceline. It has a Raceline wet sump and water rail. Crank & pulley keyed. Pistons pocketed, high lift stage II cams, Throttle bodies, Weber alpha ECU, AP heavy duty racing clutch, ultra light flywheel, and a 4-2-1 7" silencer. It utilises the standard Mondea starter motor, standard water pump, lightweight alternator, Caterham engine and gearbox mounts. It is in a SEIW MT75 chassis but fitted with a T9 close ratio heavy duty track gearbox which enables the engine to go back a lot and thus uses a short prop-shaft. It also has a 4.1 LSD. It produces 226 bhp @ 7250 rpm. If anyone has intentions of doing this and wants me to answer questions, please fire away. Cheers Ian Thats nice Quote
Guest Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 be nice to see how that water rail holds up at that spec ? the catering van has one that utilises the proper thermostat housing in the correct place. We all know the issues with that water rail on the zetec ,and that to me looks like the same one . Quote
Guest Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 nice to see the zorst can heat the water nicely Quote
conibear Posted December 8, 2003 Author Posted December 8, 2003 nice to see the zorst can heat the water nicely ?? The water rail has been tested. It is not the Zetec water rail as it would not fit, it is on the other side of the engine thus it would be upside down and leak a bit. The cast has come from a different refinery and machined by another machinist than the Zetec ones. This rail has taken nearly two months to produce, but there are three other Duratec water rails out there which all seem ok so far Whats wrong with my thermostat housing and where should it be then especially as it is a Catering van one My Bosch 82F t/stat is located in the VW alloy rad purely as the WF wiring loom is located there. However, I can install it in the t/stat housing if a future problem occurs. I am realistic to expect problems in the future. Quote
conibear Posted December 8, 2003 Author Posted December 8, 2003 I'd of thought installing the t/stat between engine and radiator inlet is the correct place Ian Quote
conibear Posted December 8, 2003 Author Posted December 8, 2003 nice to see the zorst can heat the water nicely I understand now, I am new to this jargon stuff. May heat shield that in the future, good point. But the Zetec water rails would have similar problems then Quote
Lifechooser Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 Just out of interest, is there a reason for choosing the 2.0 over the 2.3? Quote
Guest Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 moving the thermostat was always the issue , the 28k catering van does not have the raceline water rail on it .the thermostat is usually the other side of the engine on the oposite corner to wher yours is . Know doubt someone will argue about it but there have been many issues with that arrngement on zetecs and even raceline had people drilling holes in the thermostat itself . I ran one on my zetec ,when i stepped up to the same power as you (with all the same mods for that matter ) the problem raised its ugly head. All i can say it will be nice to see how it fairs as i know who has bought the duratec caterham and i must say you both seem to have very nice installs Quote
conibear Posted December 8, 2003 Author Posted December 8, 2003 Just out of interest, is there a reason for choosing the 2.0 over the 2.3? Only reason is I purchased a new 2 litre on the cheap. Harv, I agree the standard position for the water thermostat is on the other side, it is located in the return from the radiator. In theory it would be warming up the engine quicker and enabling a more accurate temperature in those low ambient conditions. I can't see what difference it would make where it was located in high ambient conditions as the engine temperature is generally maintained by the radiator fan thermostat, that is why mine is much lower than standard. I agree the £28k Caterham was not a Raceline pedigree but the builder/previous owner is building another with Raceline's product as are Caterham themselves. The Caterham I was referring to was Raceline's blue one which has had much R & D on it. Cheers Ian Quote
Guest Posted December 8, 2003 Posted December 8, 2003 all i can say is suck it and see ........... Quote
jackal Posted December 9, 2003 Posted December 9, 2003 the 28k caterham is now my car, built by mick atree. Water rail is indeed on the other side, downpipes are straight and no breather pipes from the cam cover... Apart from various custom lightweight bits the other major difference between the raceline car Ian is the porting and gas flowing. My car made 200 at teh wheels at 7000 and the session did not even go to the redline. With sensible loss figures that equates to possibly 240bhp+: let me know how you get on... Quote
Ian Podmore Posted December 9, 2003 Posted December 9, 2003 it is located in the return from the radiator Surely the stat should be located local to the engine to detect the temperature of the coolant in the engine block? Unless of course there is a bleed through the stat after the rad, but then the water passing through the rad before the engine reaches normal operating temp will be cooled? Quote
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