Recent snap of your Westfield

[BigSkyBrad]

@Benrobson2999 - Kent AO I know I harp on about this a lotwhenever I see a pic posted on the forum, but your passenger's harness is woefully mal-adjusted. In an accident, she would 'submarine' under the belt and down into the foot well, and the cross-strap/buckle would wreck havoc with her chesticles/armpits/throat/neck.

 

Most lay-passengers aren't clued on the intricacies of harness adjustment, so it's up to the captain to ensure the passenger is safe and instructed. You probably already do the following yourself self- consciously, but loosen off the shoulder straps fully and get the passenger (and help if necessary) to tighten down the hip straps first. For the first seating of the day's run, it maybe easier to sort the passenger before you climb into your side. Folks, notice I said hip straps, and not waist or stomach straps. Only then, once the hip strap is snug and tight, are the shoulder straps adjusted snug against the chest but not too tight that they are trying to hoick the hip strap up. If you have multiple passengers, they are all different shapes and sizes and the procedure needs to be followed for each.

 

I'm an ex-Airforce flight safety tech dealing with ejection seat and parachute harnesses, so this stuff has been drilled into me - and I wish everyone in any kind of harness the best chances of survival when s*** happens.👍

[Ian Kinder (Bagpuss) - Joint Peak District AO]

2 hours ago, BigSkyBrad said:

@Benrobson2999 - Kent AO I know I harp on about this a lotwhenever I see a pic posted on the forum, but your passenger's harness is woefully mal-adjusted. In an accident, she would 'submarine' under the belt and down into the foot well, and the cross-strap/buckle would wreck havoc with her chesticles/armpits/throat/neck.

Keep harping on @BigSkyBrad the more that see the good message, the better!

 

[Stuart Davis AO - Devon Cornwall & Somerset]

16 hours ago, BigSkyBrad said:

@Benrobson2999 - Kent AO I know I harp on about this a lotwhenever I see a pic posted on the forum, but your passenger's harness is woefully mal-adjusted. In an accident, she would 'submarine' under the belt and down into the foot well, and the cross-strap/buckle would wreck havoc with her chesticles/armpits/throat/neck.

 

Most lay-passengers aren't clued on the intricacies of harness adjustment, so it's up to the captain to ensure the passenger is safe and instructed. You probably already do the following yourself self- consciously, but loosen off the shoulder straps fully and get the passenger (and help if necessary) to tighten down the hip straps first. For the first seating of the day's run, it maybe easier to sort the passenger before you climb into your side. Folks, notice I said hip straps, and not waist or stomach straps. Only then, once the hip strap is snug and tight, are the shoulder straps adjusted snug against the chest but not too tight that they are trying to hoick the hip strap up. If you have multiple passengers, they are all different shapes and sizes and the procedure needs to be followed for each.

 

I'm an ex-Airforce flight safety tech dealing with ejection seat and parachute harnesses, so this stuff has been drilled into me - and I wish everyone in any kind of harness the best chances of survival when s*** happens.👍

Someone picked me up on this on FB I think when I posted a picture of my little daughter in the car, for which I’m very grateful. They recommended a ‘Bubble Bum’ booster seat to lift her up a bit and I adjusted the belts properly, much better now. Ideally I would like to get a six point harness for the passenger seat; I’ve got one and it feels much more secure, and is also a lot easier to get on!!

[Flying Carrot Steve]

2 hours ago, Stuart Davis (fatblokestu) AO- Devon & Somerset said:

Someone picked me up in this on FB I think when I posted a picture of my little daughter in the car, for which I’m very grateful. They recommended a ‘Bubble Bum’ booster seat to lift her up a bit and I adjusted the belts properly, much better now. Ideally I would like to get a six point harness for the passenger seat; I’ve got one and it feels much more secure, and is also a lot easier to get on!!

Yeah, I'm planning in going 5 or 6 point, added safety is always welcome. 

 

I used to make the mistake years ago of tightening the shoulder straps too much and as @BigSkyBrad says it pulls the hip strap up to your tummy, very dangerous. I nowadays tighten the hip strap has hard as I can and then ALWAYS tweak all the straps once moving because they always slacken slightly due to momentum I find. 

[BigSkyBrad]

The problem with harnesses is that they work best with race seats, where each strap passes through a slot in the seat, which helps keep the strap in it's intended position. On 5/6-points, the crotch strap needs to pass through the seat just in front of your business. 

 

The other thing I see is the number of harnesses used with the factory tombstone-backed seats where the shoulder straps pass around the seat back, rather than through it. Unless you or your passenger have Olympic swimmer wide shoulders, in an accident your shoulders will very potentially slip through. My missus is petite, so I had no desire to swap out the 3-point retractor belts on our Westy.

 

Here's something I found to think about...

Typical g-forces in a motor-vehicle collision.

According to GSU's HyperPhysics Project, a 160 lb person—wearing a seat belt and traveling at only 30 miles per hour—experiences around 30 g's of force in a front-end collision with a fixed object. That's 2.4 tons of force acting on the body!

 

Apologies for kidnapping the Look at my Lovely Day thread, please resume the great pics.

[Flying Carrot Steve]

44 minutes ago, BigSkyBrad said:

The problem with harnesses is that they work best with race seats, where each strap passes through a slot in the seat, which helps keep the strap in it's intended position. On 5/6-points, the crotch strap needs to pass through the seat just in front of your business. 

 

The other thing I see is the number of harnesses used with the factory tombstone-backed seats where the shoulder straps pass around the seat back, rather than through it. Unless you or your passenger have Olympic swimmer wide shoulders, in an accident your shoulders will very potentially slip through. My missus is petite, so I had no desire to swap out the 3-point retractor belts on our Westy.

 

Here's something I found to think about...

Typical g-forces in a motor-vehicle collision.

According to GSU's HyperPhysics Project, a 160 lb person—wearing a seat belt and traveling at only 30 miles per hour—experiences around 30 g's of force in a front-end collision with a fixed object. That's 2.4 tons of force acting on the body!

 

Apologies for kidnapping the Look at my Lovely Day thread, please resume the great pics.

It's actually great to hear from someone with specialist knowledge like this, not many of us give really serious consideration to our belts. Well, certainly not as much as it sounds like we should anyway! 

[DIY-Si]

 

Opps. I only paid attention to what the signed actually said after I'd already parked up.

[Flying Carrot Steve]

1 hour ago, DIY-Si said:

 

Opps. I only paid attention to what the signed actually said after I'd already parked up.

Yes but if you read the small print at the bottom it says 'Westfields excepted' 😂

[Stuart Davis AO - Devon Cornwall & Somerset]

I had to deliver something I had sold to a place called Thurloxton near Taunton today, and decided to take Winston because the weather was so nice. Some cracking roads and some dull roads, but really enjoyed the drive. Stopped on the Coombe Farm approach road on the way back for some pics.

 

On the way out on the A30, I exchanged waves with a BRG and yellow Westfield, not sure if it is anyone on here? Also had a number of chats with people who were interested in the car when I parked up, plus a ‘That’s a really cool car’ and a thumbs up from a young girl out with her mum 😊.

 

 

 

[Yatesy83]

Finally some drier weather........

 

[Benrobson2999 - Kent AO]

Found an hour today to make the most of the weather

[HB46443]

On 24/03/2024 at 14:26, Flying Carrot Steve said:

Yes but if you read the small print at the bottom it says 'Westfields excepted' 😂

 

You are now ok! @DIY Si

[Stuart Davis AO - Devon Cornwall & Somerset]

1 hour ago, HB46443 said:

 

You are now ok! @DIY Si

Was that photoshopping courtesy of the Princess of Wales by any chance? 😉

[Flying Carrot Steve]

13 hours ago, HB46443 said:

 

You are now ok! @DIY Si

Nice one! 😂👍😂👍😂👍

[HB46443]

The 2024 WSCC Speed series Championship & WSCC Challenge Championship has started.  23rd March Cadwell Park & 24th of March Mallory Park.  The Westfield community were there supporting the competing membership.

Great meeting your friends in their highly polished cars!  But it is even better being shown how they like to get a move on around the sprinting coarse.

 

Just Like the Westfield Sports Car Club Forum.  All Kit cars are able to take part in the WSCC Championships.  Categories for all engine types & capacities.  29 rounds -  22 sprinting events & 7 Hill climbs.  Compete against the clock, accumulate points & win awards.  You choose the  tracks and the rounds you wish to attend.

 

For more information on how to participate. follow the links on this channel page to the WSCC Speed series forum or contact us on westfieldupload@gmail.com for initial direction and support.

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