Captain Colonial Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Cooper, as has been said above, have a chat with our track day guru Steve. Believe you me, the committee are not out to urinate on anyone's parade, but liability and insurance are huge, HUGE potential issues that one cannot simply ignore. Do not assume insurance provided by the track covers an outside organiser - it simply isn't the case in every scenario. If someone has a big off and you were the organiser, you could be staring down the barrel of personal bankruptcy and years of litigation. The red tape and hoops to jump through are not there to spoil your fun, they're there to cover you with Teflon and ensure the safety of everyone. It's why we've had to start adding the disclaimer to track day threads, membership forms, and the disclaimer in the magazine. If we didn't, and a member organises and promotes an inadequately insured track day on the forums that ends up with a lawsuit the member loses, the litigant could potentially come after the club AND every member in it - that's how serious it is. Chat with Steve - it's a great idea and lovely to see the enthusiasm, but make sure a track day out doesn't turn into your never-ending nightmare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander72 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Good reply Mr Chairman what I was trying to say albeit badly.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Colonial Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Good reply Mr Chairman what I was trying to say albeit badly.... Not at all James, your input is greatly appreciated, well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Everall Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 StephenH is not a committee member Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Colonial Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 StephenH is not a committee member Correct - he has much more sense than that. But he's definitely the man to ask for assistance on this one - he'll then come to the committee if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperwestie Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Cheers James. Hopefully he catches up with me then. So this is my disclaimer. If this does go through it will not be backed by the WSCC or be affiliated in anyway to Westfield sports cars ltd in anyway. The venue will in theory be rented out by a private source and run under the public liability and indemnity of Mallory park. All drivers will have track day insurance and will need to send copies to prove its in place and in date. ATM this is not a valid day I'm in the process of seeing if there is enough response to take the actions any further. So I reiterate I'm looking for a head count of who would be interested in doing a track day one day in the future at Mallory Park. This is basically a poll to see if this is worth doing and has no attachment what so ever to the WSCC but may include trade stands etc to bring down the costs for fellow drivers. So please can you respond with oh yes I would be up for that, or mm no not my cup of tea........... not anything else CHEERS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperwestie Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 This is more like the Westfield response I like. Thank you all so much for your advice on this grey area, and it will indeed give me more to chuck at the track to see what the actual deal is. I will message Steve privately and see were it goes. Keep posting though still would like a head count on this one and more feed back. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperwestie Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Cooper, as has been said above, have a chat with our track day guru Steve. Believe you me, the committee are not out to urinate on anyone's parade, but liability and insurance are huge, HUGE potential issues that one cannot simply ignore. Do not assume insurance provided by the track covers an outside organiser - it simply isn't the case in every scenario. If someone has a big off and you were the organiser, you could be staring down the barrel of personal bankruptcy and years of litigation. The red tape and hoops to jump through are not there to spoil your fun, they're there to cover you with Teflon and ensure the safety of everyone. It's why we've had to start adding the disclaimer to track day threads, membership forms, and the disclaimer in the magazine. If we didn't, and a member organises and promotes an inadequately insured track day on the forums that ends up with a lawsuit the member loses, the litigant could potentially come after the club AND every member in it - that's how serious it is. Chat with Steve - it's a great idea and lovely to see the enthusiasm, but make sure a track day out doesn't turn into your never-ending nightmare. This has answered a lot cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onliest Smeg David Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Subject to the usual variables, I may be interested in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Everall Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I didn't think many people had track day insurance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperwestie Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Personally I think its useful to make sure your covered just in case you have a massive whoops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Everall Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I was referring to the post by STEPHEN HERBERT ( StephenH) not SteveH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperwestie Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Sorry mate but I still think its a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenh Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 CooperWestie, I'm not trying to "put you down," but I just wanted you to be aware of the problems and pitfalls of trackday organisation. Have a look in the boardroom section headed Local Area Meetings and Events (or something like that) started by SteveH. You will find it interesting. Steve is part of TrackAction Online, and is our trackday guru. He runs a Westfield and is heavily involved in running trackdays. See what he is offering in the thread I am referring to, and if you cannot see what you want there, then contact Steve direct by sending him a pm. I'm sure he will help you, and you will hopefully be able to avoid the risks and substantial financial commitment of trying to organise a weekend trackday yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Everall Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Can we know exactly Cooperwestie is as surely we need to know credentials of any event organiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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