Norman Verona Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 I'm going to tell you what I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you what I told you. So, to start the ball rolling I'm going to tell you about the gites. It's an offer no one will be able to refuse. Not now, but over Christmas. So, I've told you what I'm going to tell you. Watch out for part 2. Quote
Doug Dastardly Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 I'm not sure about a ball rolling, but I'm worried that you might be having a problem with your marbles Or is there some significance about the wording of the post that is lost on me? Quote
Norman Verona Posted December 21, 2012 Author Posted December 21, 2012 probably not. It's just an old gits way of getting your attention. So that worked. Ed to add that one of Churchill's idiosyncrasies was that he tended to get his message across 3 times. He would tell them what he was going to tell them, he would then tell them and he would end his speech telling them what he'd told them. This didn't always apply and didn't in his famous war time speeches as he held the country in his hand and everyone listened to what he said with an intensity never since experienced. Nearly every radio in the land had people around it listening to those early war time speeches. Television had been closed down for the war. Not that it really existed before with only a few hundred thousand sets in operation. Radio was king and everyone had access to one. Quote
pistonbroke Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 Oh dear ! I feel the worst for Norman , maybe to much sun ? onions or garlic or frogs legs or ? ........ Quote
Terry Everall Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 But you were not around during the war! Quote
Norman Verona Posted December 21, 2012 Author Posted December 21, 2012 No, I wasn't around during the war. But I've read extensively about the political side of the war, with emphasis on Churchill. Bernie, you're probably right on all counts but you left out vin rouge! Steve, sometimes I'm not sure. Quote
Norman Verona Posted December 21, 2012 Author Posted December 21, 2012 Terry, if you read enough of the serious stuff (as opposed to the sensational books designed to sell to all) you will get a wide range of academic opinion. You can then make up your own mind. For example the most anti Churchill opinions along the most love and respect for him is in Alan Brookes diaries. So outright are his opinions that the diaries could not be published until the people he criticized had passed on. Anyway, you can believe me about the gites. watch out for part 2. Quote
Andy Rob Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I teach and it is a tried and tested way of getting a message across - to tell someone 3 times. It's also what a news reader does - Here are the headlines, tell you the story and then summarise the main stories. Churchill had something there!! Quote
bhouse Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Ed to add that one of Churchill's idiosyncrasies was that he tended to get his message across 3 times. He would tell them what he was going to tell them, he would then tell them and he would end his speech telling them what he'd told them. I don't doubt that Churchill used that technique, but he was borrowing from an older (and possibly wiser) master, as it was Aristotle who was first recorded using that technique - known as the Aristotelan Triptych, in the unlikely event that anyone's interested! Quote
Norman Verona Posted December 22, 2012 Author Posted December 22, 2012 Churchill copied lots of techniques and phrases. He largely trained himself in the classics whilst stationed in India. For example "Iron Curtain" was a phrase used before (I'd have to look up who said it first) Surely the point is that he used them to such great effect. Never before, or since, has one man stirred a nation into standing up, naked, to fight the largest armed force ever assembled at that time. Our hand guns and artillery guns had been left behind in France. The Local Defence Volunteers (later renamed the Home Guard on Churchill's orders) practiced with broom sticks for guns. Fortunately that forgotten man, Dowding, had refused to allow his fighter planes to be spent over France (but not over Dunkirque). He kept back sufficient to defend the airfields that were the object of enemy destruction in the Battle of Britain. Don't I go on and an and on... Quote
stephenh Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 When I was enquiring about insurance, Churchill said "Oh Yes!!" Quote
Norman Verona Posted December 22, 2012 Author Posted December 22, 2012 And then the bl00dy dog bit you! Quote
SootySport Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Churchill copied lots of techniques and phrases. He largely trained himself in the classics whilst stationed in India. For example "Iron Curtain" was a phrase used before (I'd have to look up who said it first) Surely the point is that he used them to such great effect. Never before, or since, has one man stirred a nation into standing up, naked, to fight the largest armed force ever assembled at that time. Our hand guns and artillery guns had been left behind in France. The Local Defence Volunteers (later renamed the Home Guard on Churchill's orders) practiced with broom sticks for guns. Fortunately that forgotten man, Dowding, had refused to allow his fighter planes to be spent over France (but not over Dunkirque). He kept back sufficient to defend the airfields that were the object of enemy destruction in the Battle of Britain. Don't I go on and an and on... No Norman, you are a bit wrong there. The object of Hitlers air assaults "Blitzkrieg" was destroy the British publics moral by bombing towns, cities and factories. His fatal mistake was that he did not attack in a major way, the RAF airbases of which there were but a couple of hundred fighter planes in southern England. Later a large amount of defensive fighters were brought down from Scotland and the North in the nick of time. Had the Luftwaffe attacked the RAF in particular at the outset of Blitzkrieg the outcome of the Battle of Britain would not have taken very long and the Luftwaffe would have had total domination of the sky. Lucky for us Hitler thought himself to be tactical genius in the theatre of war( He was actually a Military Postman, Corporal, in the 1st. world war) and would not listen to his armed forces commenders, Lucky for us!!!!!! Quote
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