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Ian Bunker

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I plan to fit a Type 9 five speedbox into my narrow. When removing the engine is it easier / better to split the engine and gearbox in situ and take them out separately? This strikes me as being easier then taking the whole assembly up and out as one piece. Any advice much appreciaied. Thanks

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Recently had to remove my gearbox and certainly found it easier to separate the engine from gearbox and remove separately.

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Just picked up a 5 speed box yesterday and planing the same swap

Will be interested to see how easy it all fits!!!!

Can you see any problems with mounting position, length of prop shaft or gear stick position with this swap?

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When removing the engine is it easier / better to split the engine and gearbox in situ and take them out separately?

I don't think there's a definitive answer to that one I'm afraid. There's too many variations car to car. Mine (a wide with an XE/Type 9 and the wider MT75 tunnel) was a sheer living hell to try and put back as one unit. I had an absolute nightmare of a job trying to do it that way and at one point ended up stuck, unable to remove the engine box and start again, but unable to go forward either. I ended up having to strip far more off the car than I've ever needed to do putting them back one at a time. Plenty have found it a similar experience to mine.

On the other hand I know plenty of people on here that will tell you the opposite, that the engine/box practically sailed in as one unit!

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I've had to take my engine and gear box out about six times in the last two years and I'd say split.

1. you are less likely to snag a cable or break line or whatever.

2. you won't get as much transmission fluid all over the floor.

3. you have to separate them anyway.

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I've had to take my engine and gear box out about six times in the last two years and I'd say split.

1. you are less likely to snag a cable or break line or whatever.

2. you won't get as much transmission fluid all over the floor.

3. you have to separate them anyway.

I like that reply :-)

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Recently had to remove my gearbox and certainly found it easier to separate the engine from gearbox and remove separately.

What happend, why?

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yep split it....

Have a look at my WWW link below, and click on "Xe install" - I went from a 2000e box to a type 9, it was a tight fit, but doing it again I'd put it an inch further forward than i did to get more space. Mods will depend on what you are replacing.

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You will find you will need to remove a cross bar on the gear box tunnel top and reweld further back. The gear stick hole is right where that is. I always fit as one unit but jack up the rear first and fix the engine on an angle so it slids in then lower the rear of the car and fasten it up.

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I plan to fit a Type 9 five speedbox into my narrow. When removing the engine is it easier / better to split the engine and gearbox in situ and take them out separately? This strikes me as being easier then taking the whole assembly up and out as one piece. Any advice much appreciaied. Thanks

Just to be a bit contrary, my car has the same combination of Pinto engine, narrow body and type 9 as the original poster and there is no problem taking the engine and gearbox out as a unit. With the old radiator it was better to remove that first. Lining up the gearbox and clutch is much easier with them out of the car. The engine/gearbox combination needs to go in/out at a steep angle.

Jen

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I prefer to do it as one unit. (I just hate the hassle of reconnecting the box in situ).

Both methods ideally need two people for the critical stages.

If trying to remove in one unit, make sure you have a crane with sufficient height capability. The car will need to be up on stands, and you'll need to lift the aggregate over the radiator.

A "load leveller" helps a lot (but eats a bit of crane height).

Don't forget to have a plug ready for the rear of the box immediately the prop slips out!!

HTH

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Don't forget to have a plug ready for the rear of the box immediately the prop slips out!!

HTH

Probably a good idea to drain the gearbox oil before it comes out of the car?! :d :d

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Did mine as one unit, no problem. Once the whole unit is loose start raising the engine and move it forward enough to let the prop shaft come out, this is where the second person is needed....they are under the car with the container to catch the tranny fluid. Let the whole assembly sit on an angle for a while to let the gear box drain..

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I always remove prop first, then plug hole with the original Sierra prop stub. Oil stays in.

Then remove as one unit, narrow with standard tunnel and wide with MT75 tunnel.

I have never split the engine and gearbox. Installation takes a bit of jiggling, take it slowly and it goes in ok.

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