Fat Albert Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Look at the nose cone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JN0F5H29v0 Unless the nose was broken the observed flexibility is illegal under the rigid bodywork regulation The rules state the wings (as well as all other parts of the bodywork) must be rigid Linky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreigM Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 hmm, wonder how this will pan out, as it does appear to be made of some flexible material, which would be against the regs..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windy Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Ooooh Naughty!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoon68 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I agree initially it looks very naughty, but what do the other cars look like on the same corner? Also it'll be hard to prove as they must have passed the FIA bodywork testing before the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Very clever idea I would say Hopefully it will lead to a complete ban on all those silly appendages . Realistically every other team will now be sat at there drawing boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveD Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 i would imagine the rest of the teams knew about this anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Barlow - Show and Events Co-ordinator Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 evident last year but apparently passes fia testing http://www.f1technic...development/321 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Loudon - Sponsorship Liaison Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I was more concerned with the logo on the nose cone and then the image of the man crouching over it in the 1st pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Albert Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 evident last year but apparently passes fia testingThe nose cone could be engineered to be flexible in one direction, upwards. A mechanical link could be engineered between the upward deflected nose cone and the wing such that the angle of attack of the front wing was reduced thus reducing induced drag.When is induced drag greatest? - at high speed When would an aerodynamic bending force on the nose cone be greatest - at high speed When is an F1 car at highest speeds? - on the straights When is downforce least needed? - on the straights How do the FIA test for flexible front wings? - with a static load acting to bend the front wing downwards, force is 1Kn, deflection permitted 10mm at wing tip What do the regulations say? - Front wings (and all other bodywork) must be rigid, movable aerodynamic devices anywhere are illegal As Ferrari's 2007 flexi-floor, this is likely a deliberately designed & engineered method to break the regulations while passing the test that is supposed to prove legality. No different from Balco designing performance enhancing drugs which cannot be detected by drug tests If that's what it does It's not clever, nor genius, just cheating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Barlow - Show and Events Co-ordinator Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 If the nose drops at speed to help downforce when cornering it will then cause a negative affect by reducing top end speed on straights so is it really an advantage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I think it's designed to reduce drag at high speed, the angle of the wing becomes more horizontal as force increases, because the nose twists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander72 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 ive got that on my westfield.... gives me a noticeable advantage between 30 and 65.... on the way to get the papers.... interesting imagery though and interesting that it passes the regs... Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 As far as I can tell the load testing is vertically downwards at the end of the wing? So that only tests deflection in that plane, rather than any twisting, and therefore the wing passes the tests. Mr Newey is a clever man - I think a few of the other teams may have copied the design too, remember seeing an article somewhere that seemed to show McLaren had the same 'rotation'. What is odd is how the yellow part of the nose deforms during that pit stop though! Seems to contravene Charlie's statement in the first post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander72 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 perhaps the mechanic had 4 weetabix that morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatbaldbloke Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 If that's what it does It's not clever, nor genius, just cheating Do you see how the mirror stems appear to be flexing, maybe that is cheating as well.... Let's knock anybody that's good at what they do. That's what distinguishes the British from most other countries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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