Pistol Pete Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 ..and you'd have to change your user name to 'Lab Rat'! :d :d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 or to look at it another way, you are 22, you have a job, a laptop, no mortgae to pay, a car (westfield i guess). That money is £59.28 a day over the 70 days..... less than minimum wage brother....... think long and hard...... Ding... and a passion for music and wanting to learn to produce my own music which requires items I simply can't afford, Are there courses and quals for your dream job? If so I have three words for you... Career Developement Loan. Google them... As for getting in to the music biz, what have you tried so far? The usual way in is a spell at your local hospital radio which gets you hands on with the equipment, and also look for trainee researcher jobs on local radio and TV stations. *Loads* of media types started this way. The BBC also used to run training courses for broadcasting jobs etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoz Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 or to look at it another way, you are 22, you have a job, a laptop, no mortgae to pay, a car (westfield i guess). That money is £59.28 a day over the 70 days..... less than minimum wage brother....... think long and hard...... I don't have a Westfield, I have a Ford Escort estate, just enjoy this club and one day plan to become a member. I think long and hard a lot of the time, wishful thinking more often than not. Trying to find my jump start in life to get my foot on that first rung of the ladder! And indeed it works out as less than minimum wage when you look it at like that, however I see it as I earn approx £1350 in 70 days, so I hope you see the appeal to me (however wishful thinking it may be) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoz Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 ..and you'd have to change your user name to 'Lab Rat'! :d :d consider it done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoz Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Mr Blatman Sir, good to see you still vacate these waters at times Will look into career development loans, thanks for the header. However, the type of music production I am into is somewhat the other end of the spectrum to what you hear on your radio, I don't want to be a radio DJ, think hard dance underground music *hides behind sofa and awaits flames!* (My music taste isn't suited to radio, nor is my opinion on lots of things that get talked about on radio ) I have the contacts as it were, have built up quite a contact list of very high up people in what I am involved in, many of them long standing friends now, I now just need the material to send to these people, which requires me to sit down and learn the art or music making, which means I need a computer, a pair of decent speakers, some production software and a comfy chair. It's not much, but at current I cant seem to get the money together. But there are indeed courses suited to such activities, I applied this year for college for a very prestigious and highly spoke of college in my music scene, however I was late in being told about the course (start of August) so didn't have enough time to research etc, went to interview, got offered a placement, then couldn't afford to go. Next year I will be trying again. This is why I like this club so much, such a wide spectrum of advice is offered simply out of the goodness of peoples hearts, I've had 2 interviews so far for assistant managers jobs, one I didn't get unfortunately, but one I had today and am feeling very confident about, perseverance is the key, My life could be massively worse than what it is for sure, I have a roof over my head, food in the fridge and family and friends that support me no matter what. Sometimes support from a complete stranger really does help though. Everything else in life is just a bonus isn't it! Thanks for all your comments folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Verona Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The BBC also used to run training courses for broadcasting jobs etc.. And other things apparently. learn the art or music making, which means I need a computer, a pair of decent speakers, some production software and a comfy chair. I always thought one needed a musical instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dombanks Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 these trials dont just happen overnight, whoever said that it takes alot of work to get to the human trials stage is bang on. to get to this stage it takes huge effort and money. money that often comes from govt through research councils and other sources such as trusts and charities. echos with respect to the people on here go and ask an indipendant medic about this trial (pm me as much info and ill ask the ones kicking about here. they are all the people who start the reseach in labs on stuff like this) dependant on what they do/give you may find there is little riskc I can totally see where you are coming from . The poeple i know who did the trials did residential trials and yes it wasnt much more than £60 quid a day but they used the money to pay for their accomodation and they also chose trials near to exams. they found the fact that they were confined to the trials building gave them no chance to d*** about so just revised/wrote thesis etc. im not saying you should do it i am saying find out all the risc factors and then decide. yes there is that chance that later in life something may crop up from this so find out as much as you can about what your taking and decide from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dombanks Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 hey echos just read your email properly this has already ben trialed on humans according to the text. get these results. also look for the mouse trials data as this will tell you long term effects although mouse models can be limited. it looks like its not invoking an immune response (which is what the head enlarging drugs did with those lads mentioned before) which is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighc Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Mr Blatman Sir, good to see you still vacate these waters at times Will look into career development loans, thanks for the header. However, the type of music production I am into is somewhat the other end of the spectrum to what you hear on your radio, I don't want to be a radio DJ, think hard dance underground music *hides behind sofa and awaits flames!* (My music taste isn't suited to radio, nor is my opinion on lots of things that get talked about on radio ) I have the contacts as it were, have built up quite a contact list of very high up people in what I am involved in, many of them long standing friends now, I now just need the material to send to these people, which requires me to sit down and learn the art or music making, which means I need a computer, a pair of decent speakers, some production software and a comfy chair. It's not much, but at current I cant seem to get the money together. But there are indeed courses suited to such activities, I applied this year for college for a very prestigious and highly spoke of college in my music scene, however I was late in being told about the course (start of August) so didn't have enough time to research etc, went to interview, got offered a placement, then couldn't afford to go. Next year I will be trying again. This is why I like this club so much, such a wide spectrum of advice is offered simply out of the goodness of peoples hearts, I've had 2 interviews so far for assistant managers jobs, one I didn't get unfortunately, but one I had today and am feeling very confident about, perseverance is the key, My life could be massively worse than what it is for sure, I have a roof over my head, food in the fridge and family and friends that support me no matter what. Sometimes support from a complete stranger really does help though. Everything else in life is just a bonus isn't it! Thanks for all your comments folks what kind of Hard Dance? I'd probably keep it as a hobby if I were you. I know a couple of people who were connected to Tidy Trax a while ago (one was quite a well known engineer/producer, one a Dj who had a couple of productions released on Tidy and set up his own label) and neither of them made any real money tbh. In fact the second has given it up and become a business studies teacher. Paul Glazby has given it all up to become a fitness instructor..... If you really wanted to get involved, I'd recommend getting Cubase and a midi controller and get very busy. Can put you in touch with a very good hard dance producer/engineer if you wanted lessons etc. PM me if you want Leigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhouse Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 QuoteThe BBC also used to run training courses for broadcasting jobs etc.. And other things apparently. That's right Norman. They had the starter course for beginners, the advanced course for experts, and inter course for everything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighc Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 That's right Norman. They had the starter course for beginners, the advanced course for experts, and inter course for everything else. Now then now then..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 thats the intermediate course of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Verona Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I've no idea what you're talking about. I'll have to ask Jimmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoz Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 I always thought one needed a musical instrument. Norm, I listen to electronic music, I appreciate that may be something 99% of the population oft his forum may object to Think Trance but faster and heavier Fortunately I do have a solid taste in more mainstream music from the by gone era's, my oldman had a good taste in music Can't stand chart music of today though, utter tosh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoz Posted November 2, 2012 Author Share Posted November 2, 2012 these trials dont just happen overnight, whoever said that it takes alot of work to get to the human trials stage is bang on. to get to this stage it takes huge effort and money. money that often comes from govt through research councils and other sources such as trusts and charities. echos with respect to the people on here go and ask an indipendant medic about this trial (pm me as much info and ill ask the ones kicking about here. they are all the people who start the reseach in labs on stuff like this) dependant on what they do/give you may find there is little riskc I can totally see where you are coming from . The poeple i know who did the trials did residential trials and yes it wasnt much more than £60 quid a day but they used the money to pay for their accomodation and they also chose trials near to exams. they found the fact that they were confined to the trials building gave them no chance to d*** about so just revised/wrote thesis etc. im not saying you should do it i am saying find out all the risc factors and then decide. yes there is that chance that later in life something may crop up from this so find out as much as you can about what your taking and decide from that. Dom, appreciate what you are saying here and teh help you are offering, would you mind emailing me as I am not a member so can't PM. kingstonward@hotmail.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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