Fangi0 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 So Schumacher is finally nailing it today. Much as I dislike the unsportsmanlike, desperate, ego driven, kraut, it would be an incredible achievement for him to pull off pole and or a podium. Let's see..if anyone can do it he can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibby Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 He nailed it in practise last week and didn't really impress. There will be wildly different fuel loads and setups out there today. The only lap times that count are the ones after the lights go out. Come on the Brits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangi0 Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Yep. Maybe Button's success will get the Hamilton mojo working again. I do not want to hear the German anthem any more thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab (bombero) Reid Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 So Schumacher is finally nailing it today. Much as I dislike the unsportsmanlike, desperate, ego driven, kraut, it would be an incredible achievement for him to pull off pole and or a podium. Let's see..if anyone can do it he can I may agree that some of his past antics were unsportsman-like, but he's been a tremendous driver for the sport and a demon in the wet .. oh, and please lay up on the use of the 'k***t' word, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibby Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Yep. Maybe Button's success will get the Hamilton mojo working again. I do not want to hear the German anthem any more thank you. Can't see Hamilton turning things around this season, his ego has got the better of him and he's too busy chasing p1ssycatdollface girls and silly earrings. If he can get a level headed manager like his old man back, sort out his private life and get his head out of the shed he's still got plenty of years to get back onto winning form ... but I can see him carrying on the way he is and becoming another Eddie Irvine, more interested in the parties and lifestyle than winning races. Button's showing real promise, he's far smoother with his driving, patient with picking his moves and an all round more complete driver. Either way, it would be nice to hear god save the quirk being played a bit more regularly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Colonial Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Don't like Schumacher, full stop. Respect what he accomplished, respect his skills, despise the way he won at least two of his titles and some of his stunts (like nearly shoving Rubens into the pit wall at 200 mph) make me very angry indeed - his arrogance has led him to be a mortal danger to others on occasions. I have and continue to eat humble pie about Button, though. I thought he was a driver who could only drive a car perfectly set-up to his liking quickly (and that's still partially true), but that he would get trampled underfoot at McLaren by Lewis, whereas Jenson has cunningly moulded the team around himself instead and Lewis is looking very isolated - I've lost respect for Lewis over these past few seasons and that saddens me. My predictions are that at the end of the season, Webber retires, Lewis moves to Red Bull alongside Vettel, and Massa gets axed mid-season when Kubica is well enough to drive again and Ferrari grabs him. (Watch this be SO wrong!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny's Westie Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 If we all remember when Button joined Mclaren then everyone thought he would last 2 years and then be gone. Looks like he is the better driver in the team and may outlast the over-rated poseur Hamilton. If I was any good on searching I would try and find the posts from before, but pretty sure someone will know how to do it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidgh Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I like Schumacher. He doesn't seem to me to be any more "unsportsmanlike, desperate, or ego driven" than Senna was (though he's definitely more kraut). In fact, for a sadly brief period, they were the real deal together. But then, I have to own up to admiring Alonso too. He has the same ability the young MS had to get good results with a sub-optimal car. Am however "on message" with the rest of you in being far more impressed with JB than I had expected to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Weeell, I'll bite and stick my head up above the parapet. (Mmm, mixed metaphors ) You will indeed find such posts, but then you also need to look at how Jenson has changed over the years; from the hope and expectation sat on his shoulders as Damon Hill's replacement as the English "champion" when he first arrived in F1. Early promise seemed to go nowhere and I think a lot of F1 fans, (myself included), despaired that he'd ever even win a race. Towards the end of that phase of his career, I swear you'd see it in his face and body language sometimes. So many "nearly's" The came that fateful race when he learnt how to win in F1. And the start of the next phase of his racing career. You could see the change in him, both on track and in interviews. The time with Braun really seemed to cement that and motivate him in the right direction to get to where he is now. By comparison everything that happens to Lewis seems to either demotivate him, or lead him in a different direction from F1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Seabrook Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I like Schumacher. He doesn't seem to me to be any more "unsportsmanlike, desperate, or ego driven" than Senna was (though he's definitely more kraut). In fact, for a sadly brief period, they were the real deal together. But then, I have to own up to admiring Alonso too. He has the same ability the young MS had to get good results with a sub-optimal car. Am however "on message" with the rest of you in being far more impressed with JB than I had expected to be. Yep Senna was just as aggressive as M.S. but people seem to either over look or forget that. In 1993 Senna almost had Schui off the track in Spa leaving the pits. He forced M.S on the grass at 170mph but like I said no body mentions that do they May be Schi learned his race craft from Senna. And for the record I also like Senna, Schui and Alonso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangi0 Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Sorry, no chance. Can't stand and krauts. Never will. I have reasons. I may agree that some of his past antics were unsportsman-like, but he's been a tremendous driver for the sport and a demon in the wet .. oh, and please lay up on the use of the 'k***t' word, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidgh Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Lovely to see reasoned argument and moderation in this forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangi0 Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 I like Schumacher. He doesn't seem to me to be any more "unsportsmanlike, desperate, or ego driven" than Senna was (though he's definitely more kraut). In fact, for a sadly brief period, they were the real deal together. But then, I have to own up to admiring Alonso too. He has the same ability the young MS had to get good results with a sub-optimal car. Am however "on message" with the rest of you in being far more impressed with JB than I had expected to be. Nicely put. I like Schumacher. He doesn't seem to me to be any more "unsportsmanlike, desperate, or ego driven" than Senna was (though he's definitely more kraut). In fact, for a sadly brief period, they were the real deal together. But then, I have to own up to admiring Alonso too. He has the same ability the young MS had to get good results with a sub-optimal car. Am however "on message" with the rest of you in being far more impressed with JB than I had expected to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangi0 Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Sorry, meant to say Nicely put by davidgh. I like Schumacher. He doesn't seem to me to be any more "unsportsmanlike, desperate, or ego driven" than Senna was (though he's definitely more kraut). In fact, for a sadly brief period, they were the real deal together. But then, I have to own up to admiring Alonso too. He has the same ability the young MS had to get good results with a sub-optimal car. Am however "on message" with the rest of you in being far more impressed with JB than I had expected to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M444TTB Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 In many ways Schumacher was the very last of that breed of ruthless champion that developed once the ara became considerably safer. Schumacher the man is a totally different creature. He'd be good for a night out on the beers with his defenses down. I've always been a Button fan, but did dispair during the Honda years where every season seemed worst than the last. I'm not sure I've ever been happier (regarding F1) than when he won in 2009. Schumacher and Ferrari in 2000 is close though. Hamilton's an interesting one. The guy we saw in GP2 and his first few F1 seasons still seems to be missing. Lifestyle, management, tyres, whatever but I hope we see that guy back as he's awesome. I want not to like Alonso. There was something during his during his championship years, and them even more so at McLaren in 2007 that doesn't sit well. But he's such a good driver and when he isn't in a bad mood seems like a nice guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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