SteveD Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 ppl, have been contacting me the last couple of weeks asking if we have a radio on the premises ,i said yes in the workshop and there are two of us in there , but only i listen to it ,he says what if delivery drivers come in to drop off parts can they hear it ,yes unless there deaf i say ,they say you need a licence then ,so i say what if i can hear the delivery drivers radio does he need a licence and i just get err err err ,he just says we will send you a invoice ,so i say i dont know who you are so i wont pay anything you could be anyone ringing up and im not paying to listen to a radio thats been there 30 odd years and its not as if they can turn it off if you dont pay ,he goes on and on saying we will send it and you will pay while offering no more evidence to who they are or why i need one ,i say so if i have two mates in my van do i need a licence if i have the radio on he just says err errr errr il send you a invoice ,we argue for a while and he offer no explanation as to why i need one other than we have a radio so we need a licence ,so i put the phone down today we receive another invoice plus charges , so i ring them speak to a girl and have the same argument , i say so if i drive a customers car into the workshop and the radio is on do i need a lecence for that ,she says yes if you have the radio on in the car for any more than a minute you need a licence ,so i laugh and asked her who polices this ,she says we do ,so i asked how ,she says well we will just send you a invoice for a licence if you have the radio on in a car for more than a minute ,so i asked how do you know if i have a radio on in a customers for more than a minute and how do you police it ,she says we police it and we will send you a invoice ,so i say again but how do you know if i have a radio on in a customers car and how do you police it and so it goes on and on , in the end i just said well we will turn the radio in the workshop off , but ask her how this is to benefit the artists if we dont listen to the radio as this licence is supposidly to help artists , so i say to her if we dont have the radio on we cant listen to new songs so we wont buy any cd's or download any new music because thats how new releases are played on the radio and if we dont have the radio on we wont hear them f******s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark (smokey mow) Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Have you thought about telling them you're a Church it's only £13.07 for a year? We could all pop around on a Sunday morning to worship your latest creation Don't forget that if you need PPL you probably also need a PRS licence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveD Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 yes but what the chuff is a prs licence ,its just to give monkeys sat at desks jobs ,getting them to ring up without propa explanation , a dealers down the road was supposed to be paying over £800 a year as they have a few radios in different parts of the premises can you have a tv on the premises i wonder and just have the radio on through that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustie Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 They ring my home every now and again, usually when we're out so they leave a 'please ring back' message on the answerphone. I ignore it. The reason they ring is that for a few years we had a dormant company registered with Companies House: It's along story but essentially there was a possibility of one or more of us goinig in to consultancy but that never happened so the company never, ever traded. We finally disolved it when we both retired about three years ago. We have had the occasional call from them for the past 10 years but in the last month we've had three calls all on the answerphone and duly ignored.So I'm guessing that they are under pressure to meet some sort of target. They are obviously on the ball. They don't seem to have the nous to check if a company is trading or if their information is up to date. Another example of why the public sector gets the kicking it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Sparky Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Nutz! Smigga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurksalot Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 They are obviously on the ball. They don't seem to have the nous to check if a company is trading or if their information is up to date. Another example of why the public sector gets the kicking it does. I didn't think they are public sector arn't they a private outfit trying to ring the last bit of goodwill out of the music loving public I am sure that they would argue it is recovering some of the income lost through illegal downloads , me, I reckon it's about time they sang for their supper rather than get fat on album sales . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 yes but what the chuff is a prs licence ,its just to give monkeys sat at desks jobs ,getting them to ring up without propa explanation , a dealers down the road was supposed to be paying over £800 a year as they have a few radios in different parts of the premises can you have a tv on the premises i wonder and just have the radio on through that PRS Licence info. TV licence info for businesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustie Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 You're right Lurksalot. They are'nt public sector; I guess they're the industry sector equivalent of a quango ( thanks Blatman for the search ). I'm ex public sector myself and I guess I'm probably tainted by my experience ! But they do seem to behave like the worst of bureaucracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 And whilst Steve (and many others) may not like the calls, or even understand the issues, the facts are that listening to a radio or watching TV in an area where members of the public can come in and "accidentally" overhear the broadcast means that the appropriate licences should be sought. There is a more general explanation of the TV licencing issues here... PPL licencing info here... Note that the requirement for a PPL Licence is for "recorded" music or videos. To me that sounds like records, tapes, CD's and MP3's rather than listening to a radio broadcasting recorded music. I'm only guessing though so I'd seek clarification from the PPL people on exactly what they mean by "recorded" music... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Playing fair PRS for Music distributes nearly 90% of the fees we receive from licences back to songwriters, composers and publishers in the form of royalties. We only deduct our administration cost. Nearly 90% of FA is , erm , ermm , FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.anson Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 What a load of b*****k* and is just typical of why this country is in the state its in. f***** send them and invoice for your time you have wasted even discussing this with these idiots ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurksalot Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 What a load of b*****k* and is just typical of why this country is in the state its in. f***** send them and invoice for your time you have wasted even discussing this with these idiots ! Thanks Mark , I can take it , but I am not sure how Blatters will take to being called an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurksalot Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 On a related note The Government has recently changed the Live music act , you are now allowed to have live music in small venues between 8..-11.00 PM without the need for a special license. So Steve , turn off the radio, change your working hours and get a band in , you know it makes sense If you need a rocking band , just let me know, I might have a contact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.anson Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 No offence meant Lurkaslot or to batters either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I've been called worse... I have also seen the issue from the other side of the coin, the side of the artists, musicians, playrights, producers, directors et al who, just like the rest of us, are entitled to get paid for their work, which is what this is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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