Speed Series Target Times 2012

[Nick Algar - Competition Secretary]

The Speed Series Target times for 2012 have been posted here http://www.wscc.co.uk/speedseries/2012/Targets.php

Please note that the Speed Series Organising Team has made a slight change to some of these times, please read the explanation.

[Scottish Bloke]

Dear SSOT

It's late and I need to clear this in my head.

If we look at Loton for example, Howard Gaskin posted a 57.93 and beat the then target time by almost 3 seconds and beat 2 people in F on the same day by a sizeable margin, is this a soft target time? or am I missing the point?

Are we saying Howard's time is not the targetg time? If not then what is?

Confused, Durham

[Tigger]

My understanding SB is that the time in "F" has been eliminated by Howards time.

Therefore, this will be a "Fastest time on the day" = 100 points

If I'm wrong then I'm sure somebody from the SSOT will be along to hit me with a sharp stick

Tiggs

[Scottish Bloke]

Nope, still confused.

Howard set the time in D, he beat two people in F on the same day, my point being this is not a "soft time" if he beat two people in a "higher" class?

Still Confused, Durham

[Terry Everall]

Thanks to Committee getting these out but I too find it a bit hard to understand

Class D has 10 STEs and includes venues we have used for years which seems crazy doesnt it ?

Did we not use accepted target times for these venues last year?

Maybe easier to understand if we knew what the STE times were.

So what will be their target times?

[davidgh]

Dear SSOT

It's late and I need to clear this in my head.

If we look at Loton for example, Howard Gaskin posted a 57.93 and beat the then target time by almost 3 seconds and beat 2 people in F on the same day by a sizeable margin, is this a soft target time? or am I missing the point?

Are we saying Howard's time is not the targetg time? If not then what is?

Confused, Durham

Rich

Howard may have beaten a couple of people in F, but (seemingly) he was beaten by John Palmer in C.

HTH

[John Loudon - Sponsorship Liaison]

Rich

Howard may have beaten a couple of people in F, but (seemingly) he was beaten by John Palmer in C.

HTH

Yes - JP was faster but ran without a windscreen so his time should be null and void?

[ACW]

Can I suggest that someone emails Nick with this information. The SSOT spend a heck of a lot of time to get these things right. However they cant be all knowing at every event, especially if the results for that event have gone through our results in the past.

[davidgh]

Yes - JP was faster but ran without a windscreen so his time should be null and void?

Certainly, John -- if that's true, that result should stand neither for the 2011 championship or the 2012 TTs.

Will you email Nick?

[davidgh]

P.S. I've already mailed Nick about the Class E TT for Hethel, which should be deleted.

[Nick Algar - Competition Secretary]

As Adrian said we spent a long time going through these, but Richard and David have already spotted a couple of anomalies that will be corrected. In general hopefully most will be right.

[Scottish Bloke]

I have emailed my queries to the SSOT.

[SteveD]

just turn up drive as fast as you can ,simples ! thats all you can do

[*Emma*]

_{Howard Gaskin posted a 57.93 and beat the then target time by almost 3 seconds and beat 4 people in F on the same day by a sizeable margin.}

_{56.67 on the Sunday! Still got beaten by John Palmer though, albeit with an aeroscreen. Mind you, no shame in being beaten by JP}

_{Howard on Emma's log in...}

[Nick Algar - Competition Secretary]

In answer to the queries that have been raised, it is all covered in the regulations, but as they are wirtten in MSA format an explanation might help.

In Richard's example, you need to be looking in the other direction ie at the classes that are below class D. Howard’s times may well be competitive, but they have still be beaten by class C, so are eliminated and become a soft time.

A soft time is considered as a 100 point maximum for that event. This may not be a bad thing as on some days it has been difficult to get 100 points, so winning that class on the day could give good points. The SSOT decision is trying to eliminate the 102’s that predominated in some classes last year and by doing what we have, it is limited to 100 point’s at these events. The main effect has been in classes C &D which were new classes last year, but also E is affected as well.

I hope that clarifies what we have done and why.

There will of course be some event's like Loton, where we were not in possesion of all the facts and these instances will be looked at whenever raised directly with the SSOT via me.

Regards

Nick