glenn3 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Just had my gearbox refurbed so the engine and box has been out and back in by my local mechanic. I am going to pick the car up at the weekend. What sort of cost would you be expecting to pay for the work? Not including the refurb. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark (smokey mow) Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Funny enough just having this conversation on a PM. From driving my Westfield into the garage to having the engine mounted on the stand I can do it in 2 hours, but that's leaving the gearbox behind. Relaistically and obviously depending on engine and the competency of the garage I'd have said 4-5 hours for engine and box for an out and back in again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveD Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Funny enough just having this conversation on a PM. From driving my Westfield into the garage to having the engine mounted on the stand I can do it in 2 hours, but that's leaving the gearbox behind. Relaistically and obviously depending on engine and the competency of the garage I'd have said 4-5 hours for engine and box for an out and back in again. depends on spec and components used ,some can take 5 hours just to remove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedditchJay Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 also, did you confirm the garage hourly rate ? the guys who woerk on my Landrove charge £30.00 per hour BUT the guys who work on the Porsche charge £65 per hour.............. just because it has a Porsche badge...... and maybe some odd additional special tools........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Verona Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 And VW/Audi dealers are mostly over £100 per hour. But before you all start shouting about rip off dealers let me give some explanation. When I ran dealership workshops I had 4 mechanics for 1 admin person. That included the manager, receptionists, foreman and warranty clerk. Most VW/Audi dealerships have more admin people than technicians due to the tasks they are set by the dealership contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket_rabbit Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 It took me 2.5 hours to remove the engine/box on mine. That was with 2 people and a lot of photo taking and tomfoolery. My trick was that I took the throttle bodies of first thereby not spilling any fuel or muching about with throttle cable. Putting it back in should take 2.5 hours too, maybe a little longer because everything has to be torqued/thread locked/copper greased (depending on where it is and hwat it does). Not including the Gearbox refurb, £350 - 400? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn3 Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 The spec is a Duratec with a Quaife sequential. I was thinking closer to the £500 mark myself. Just been billed over the £900 mark. Requested the full breakdown before I pay as I thought it was too steep! Cheers folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Freak Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 900 quid!!!! ouch. unless ofcourse theyre charging 100 quid plus vat (per hour)like some mainstream garages do? But surely you asked their hourly rate before getting the job done didnt you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanPlace Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Steep, Took me 3 hours to get mine out and 6 weeks to get it back in :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn3 Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 900 quid!!!! ouch. unless ofcourse theyre charging 100 quid plus vat (per hour)like some mainstream garages do? But surely you asked their hourly rate before getting the job done didnt you? Normally charge £40. With labour coming out at £705 quid it works out at 17.5 hours. Seems excessive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterg Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Hmm, even assuming it's actually £40+vat that's still over 14 hours, I think that's 8 hours too much for a Westfield for a trained mechanic in a garage workshop with engine crane and all the right tools to hand... even assuming a lack of knowledge of this particular car it's not rocket science to undo hoses and wiring connectors and then unbolt all the mounting bolts and pull it out! From memory I could take my 1800 zetec out in 2 hours and put it back in took about 1 hour plus another hour to fill/check the fluids and run up to temp to sort out airlocks etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Everall Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 2 hours out and 3 in is what I used to work on with my Duratec including dry sump hoses etc and it was fitted with Quaife seq box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedditchJay Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 its like anything though, people need to earn a living and have bills / overheads to pay........ sounds expensive but you might be able to work a cash deal ? I did on the last Porsche job i had done, he waved the V.A.T which knocked £140 of the bill as I was paying cash ............. and didnt need a receipt {just an exhaust blow to repair} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTR2Turbo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 But is the 14 hours just for the engine labour or gearbox refurb also? Time will depend upon the engine / chassis etc It was 5 hours to take the engine and gearbox out of my Sport 2000s. And that was excluding the hour it took to separate a seized exhaust joint at the bottom of the header. On the sport chassis lots of other parts need removing such as ARB, dry sump tank, alternator ... Basically the whole front needs stripping away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark (smokey mow) Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I've just taken my engine out and have managed to do it in 1hr 37 miunutes start to finish. Out of curiosity I decided to film it in timelapse 0 Start - Bonnet off 2min Nose cone off 3min Towels down 4min Depressurise fuel system 5min Disconnect Electrical connector on AFM 5min Disconnect Battery 6min Disconnect Electrical connectors on Throttle body 7min Undo jubilee clips on intake ducting 9min Jack up front of car 12min Lower onto axle stands 13m Drain coolant system 16min Disconnect wire to oil pressure sender 17min Disconnect alternator connectors 20min Disconnect throttle cable 21min Disconnect starter motor connectors 23min Disconnect Connectors to Coil pack 25min Undo jubilee clips on top radiator hose 26min Undo jubilee clips on bottom radiator hose 27min Disconnect Fuel hoses from fuel rail 33min Unbolt Clutch Slave cylinder from side of bell housing 37min Disconnect hose to cam cover breather 39min Undo nuts on exhaust manifold to silencer link pipe 46min Undo nut on ns engine mount rubber 48min Undo nut on os engine mount rubber 49min Take bucket of coolant to a safe place where it won’t be knocked over 50min Undo Engine to bell housing bolts 01h09m Remove starter motor 01h12m Loosen bolts on os engine mount to block 01h19m Support engine on hoist 01h23m Place wooden chocks between gearbox and transmission hoop 01h25m remove ns engine mount 01h29m Disconnect earth strap I'd forgotten to do earlier 01h30m Persuade engine out of bell housing 01h30m Lift engine clear 01h31m Place jack under car and lower off axle stands 01h33m Roll car back 01h36m Lower engine onto dolly 01h37m Finish - Remove hoist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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