Mot Failure On Tintop Windscreen Chip - Any Advice?

[Stuart]

Tintop just failed MoT on a (repaired) windscreen chip, failure described as "002 Windscreen has damage to an area in excess of a 10mm circle within zone 'A' (8.3.1a)".

According to online MoT testers manual (updated 01/01/12), zone A is 290mm wide (145mm either side of the steering wheel centre).

This damage is patently outside this area - I reckon it's 220mm from the steering wheel centre line. Car has also passed at least 4 previous MoTs with this repaired chip.

Have heard about some MoT changes happening this year - so, have the rules changed since 1st January or am I being shafted here?

Any advice much appreciated before I fork out for a new screen on Monday.

Thanks,

Stuart

[SteveD]

just put a new one in ,claim on your screen policy if you have one either £50 or £70 excess and it does not effect your insurance renewal

[Stuart]

Thanks Steve - just checked it's £75 excess and no effect on NCB - so you reckon I should do this rather than argue with the tester? It's actually my lad's old banger so it ain't got much life left. I gotta chuck him a new front caliper on too so there's scope for the guy to screw me around when it goes for retest if I get under his skin. Think you're probably right but still annoying to have to fork out £75 if he's wrong.

[pistonbroke]

From what you say about previous MOT passes , I would certainly be asking questions before I forked out for a new screen

[SteveD]

Thanks Steve - just checked it's £75 excess and no effect on NCB - so you reckon I should do this rather than argue with the tester? It's actually my lad's old banger so it ain't got much life left. I gotta chuck him a new front caliper on too so there's scope for the guy to screw me around when it goes for retest if I get under his skin. Think you're probably right but still annoying to have to fork out £75 if he's wrong.

yeh you cant even pop it in somewhere else for a mot now as it will flag up what it failed on anyway so they would pick up on it ,just pay the £75 and move on and forget about it

[housebeautician]

Your being shafted

You can't do much about it

so bend over and get your wallet out

[s2rrr]

Your previous mots should record the fact that it passed with the chip. My last car had a similar chip and it was recorded but its a battle and probably easier to get a new screen. Whoever repaired it may even offer a screen at reduced excess.

Bob

[SteveD]

makes me chuckle if it was on a westy ,half of you wouldnt bat an eye lid and just fit a new screen ,but because its on a everyday car 90% of folk moan like feck if they have to spend 20p on them to keep em on the road

[housebeautician]

makes me chuckle if it was on a westy ,half of you wouldnt bat an eye lid and just fit a new screen ,but because its on a everyday car 90% of folk moan like feck if they have to spend 20p on them to keep em on the road

Cant argue with that.

[SteveD]

its like feckers who moan when there car fails on brake pads or ball joints who really feck me off ,i have seen ****s who have posted on another forum i use saying its passed the last two years with advisories on the ball joints ,and they have failed it now on them ,well that says to me what a incompetant pr**k of a owner who shouldn't even be allowed to drive a car , endangering others lives with his own selfish perthetic attitude to car repairs ,people like this should loose there licence , believe me i have seen cars inspected by the police after they have been involved in serious accidents ,they go through them like a dose of salts brakes,joints,tyres everything ,and any half serious things that are wrong they will throw the book at you

[Matt Seabrook]

Can't argue with that Steve.

[locost westie]

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s08000301.htm

If you say its outside zone A go back to MOT test station get him to recheck it, if he still says no and your not happy ask for form VT17, don't just except his decision on this if you think he is wrong, but if you don't want to upset them replace the screen.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Notice%20of%20Appeal%20(VT17).pdf

[Norman Verona]

Sorry Steve I disagree with you ON THIS EXAMPLE.

If the rules say 145mm from centre of steering column and this chip is 220mm from c/l then it's not a failure.

We don't make the rules so as long as the item is within them is must be OK.

I notice there's no complaint about having to change the caliper.

[s2rrr]

Popcorn

Agree with Steve and Norman if thats possible. The screen has been repaired and that to me means resin injection which should stop any further cracking. The repairers should know what constitutes a fit for purpose repair and if it is out of the zone won't create any issues. If it were unrepaired and in the zone or visible area yes no brainer change it out. As for example brakes, tyres and suspension parts, 100% agree the number of times I have heard people say " yes passed MOT today with dodgy XXX" foolish people knowingly driving about with an accident waiting to happen, pure irresponsibility. We should be and I think we are encouraging better construction and maintenance only tempered by a bit of common sense if that makes any sense. How many people have we seen the last few weeks driving in the morning peeping through a tiny hastily wiped/scraped patch through the ice, idiots and dangerous idiots at that. Using mobile phone, eating toast drinking their cuppa etc etc etc the list goes on.

Bob

[Stuart]

I have still taken the route of least resistance and booked it in for a new screen tomorrow though. Thanks for all the comments guys.