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[echoz]

SteveD

Glad i am not the only one with this opinion on what they deserve and im glad it helped you as well

and theres nowt wrong with man wuv wuv

[SteveD]

Would just ;like to clarify that in no way was i insinuating that depression is a load of tosh, i spent the past 2 and a half years of my life living with a depressed person who was depressed because her dad who abused her as a child killed himself after years of alcohol and drug abuse and numerous attempts of suicide, she now lives everyday with a 101 questions she will never get answers to, waking up screaming every night for the first 3 months after it happened, and periodically still after the last time i spoke to her. having to cpomfort her...  i spent 2 and a half years helping that girl in every way i could, and imho i know i made a huge difference to her life, i know fully well what depression is and what it entails and how much it hurts, i also have family members who suffer from depression, one of whom has been on many forms of medication, many different councilling techniques and just recently also tried killing himself, i hope many of you have never had to experience seeing their own mum have a nervous breakdown after finding out her son had tried to commit suicide. its a sad strange place to be...

again no offence meant, but just re read through this since this morning and can't help but feel that some folks refuse to acknowledge that a young adult can have opinions (if the boot fits...), I won't be commenting on this thread again, in retrospect, should probably have left it well alone!

ETA: Steve, would never have guessed you suffered from depression, always seem to have a half full glass in ya hand, 1997 is 14 years ago now, you're still with us, maybe in a way this illustrates my point. For some one i've never met i hold a lot of respect for you, as a few others on here.

its turning into the westfield confessional   and the b****y gayers club  

echoz ,i was abused as a child if you can call it abused ,by my parents next door neighbour ,i was around 8 or 9 ,nothing happened to me but he tried several times keeping me locked in rooms trying to gety me to do things ,he was a close freind of my fathers and he trusted him ,i have never told anyone not even my parents or bev , he tried over the space of a few years to get me to do things and touch him etc etc wont go into to much detail ,

he had to move away suddenly ,i later found out when i was about 16 that another lads father was after him for the same thing thats why he moved ,his wife new he was abusing kids ,he even abused his own daughter and she knew that to ,she was ther in the house once when he had me in the living room , when i was around 19 i found out he was living in a static caravan in winsford flashes ,i found out which caravan and to cut it short kicked the living s**t out of him ,his wife died suddenly not long after ,he died a few months later ,dont know if the other lads dad ever got to him though ,but  i felt better for what i did to him ,these days its easier to find people to talk to but it is still hard plucking up the courage to do so , and in later life its even harder speaking about it i would have thought its hard for me as i have never really said anything until now , its hard typing this but i have moved on ,it does not stop me thinking about it every now and then though

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman)]

wow... this is getting deeeeeep.......  how the heck do you know if your heading this way.... or do you "just know"

I was slightly surprised and puzzled when I lost it and booted a walkie talky at someone's head,   somehow managed to explain away the weird panic attack type feelings in busy public places. Realised I was loosing it the third time I burst into tears for no apparent reason, (and the second time while just driving along). But that was OK, 'cause denial comes next    

Then someone I guess either spotted it, or had an inkling and asked some very direct yes/no type questions. Professional help from there on in made a huge difference.

Unfortunately this was the second major bout I'd had; first time round I didn't realise, plus attitudes were different and I just struggled on. Jeez how I wish I'd known the first time, what I found out the second. But I was just a stubborn teenager still affected by the "pull yourself together" attitude of the time.

Like Steve said, amazing how people made themselves scarce back then, though to be fair, at 17 I'd have probably reacted the same too.

[SteveD]

wow... this is getting deeeeeep.......  how the heck do you know if your heading this way.... or do you "just know"

I was slightly surprised and puzzled when I lost it and booted a walkie talky at someone's head,   somehow managed to explain away the weird panic attack type feelings in busy public places. Realised I was loosing it the third time I burst into tears for no apparent reason, (and the second time while just driving along). But that was OK, 'cause denial comes next    

Then someone I guess either spotted it, or had an inkling and asked some very direct yes/no type questions. Professional help from there on in made a huge difference.

Unfortunately this was the second major bout I'd had; first time round I didn't realise, plus attitudes were different and I just struggled on. Jeez how I wish I'd known the first time, what I found out the second. But I was just a stubborn teenager still affected by the "pull yourself together" attitude of the time.

Like Steve said, amazing how people made themselves scarce back then, though to be fair, at 17 I'd have probably reacted the same too.

i still make myself scarce when you come in the room wuv    

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman)]

Of God, it's not going to be those dreadful American man hug things all round is it      

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman)]

   

[echoz]

SteveD

Glad i am not the only one with this opinion on what they deserve and im glad it helped you as well

and theres nowt wrong with man wuv wuv

is that an indirect passive way of asking for a man hug?

[Captain Colonial]

Of God, it's not going to be those dreadful American man hug things all round is it      

Don't drag me into it!

[SteveD]

group hug

[SteveD]

some tips here wuvers

http://mitchieville.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/man-hug.png

[lippydave]

A friend had a severe episode of depression after he broke up with his wife, lost his house,[1] and had limited access to his kids....  

So much so that he ended up one morning threatening to jump off a bridge and end it all.

He got talked out of it by the boys in blue, and got some good professional help and plenty of support from his mates. Within a relatively short time he was back on an even keel and back to normal.    

I was sat down with him a while back over a cup of tea chatting anout how ex-wives can be dumb vindictive b*tches..

Anyway, I said to him   "Don't you dare do anything like that again you inconsiderate c*ck!"... "I promise not to" he said..... "Good" I said "because you made me late for work you p***k when they closed the road to talk you down...."      

Luckily he took it in the spirit it was meant...

[1] When I divorced my ex-wife and lost my property, and suffered a horrible financial kick in the b*****k I had a celebratory party... It's all a matter of perspective...