Glen_I Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 Has anyone routed fuel and brake pipes along the base of transmission tunnel but on the inside and passed SVA? I will be using Braided hose for both jobs, any thoughts on this? Glen Quote
mb893 Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 Yep. On all the 'megas' this is common practice. As for briaded hoses - can't think why it should fail. Won't they make the brakes spongy as they give when you apply the brakes? Regards John Quote
S8ight Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 for the amount braided hose can expand you wouldnt really be able to tell the difference. Quote
Nick M Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 Won't they make the brakes spongy as they give when you apply the brakes? a) decent teflon brake hose doesn't expand, or if it does it's a miniscule amount b) no it won't make the brake pedal spongy - my car is done throughout with aeroquip hose and there's no sponginess HTH Quote
Glen_I Posted November 2, 2003 Author Posted November 2, 2003 Not to sure if i made my question clear.. i meant route the pipes on the inside of the car?? i know from a MOT point of view this is not a problem but SVA.............. Glen. Quote
S8ight Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 as long as they are fixed every 300mm you can put the pretty much anywhere you want Quote
daverobs Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 I spoke to SVA Shrewsbury and they advised me as I was using rubber fuel pipe from front to rear to P clip every 150mm as there is no inherent strength in the hose. Might this apply to brake hose to make sure? Also I think Glen 1 is asking about routing inside the cockpit using bulk connectors perhaps? Quote
Glen_I Posted November 3, 2003 Author Posted November 3, 2003 Daverobs, you are cprrect about me run running the pipes on the inside of the cockpit, and yes i will be using bulk head fittings, glad you mentioned about securing it every 150mm i will do that to be on the safe side. Thanks. Glen Quote
hilux Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 for the amount braided hose can expand you wouldnt really be able to tell the difference. Disagree big time............. FWIW copper etc will `not` expand IMO run ALL hoses in rigid apart from final flex to calipers/drums YKIMS Braided hose relies on the braiding to stop expansion What if the braiding fails (for whatever reason) Personal opinion of course.......................... (its my A*** on the line dont forget cos I put it together !!! IMO there is NO specific benefit in using braided all the way except that it is easier to fit Quote
S8ight Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 i was sceptical about braided hose also. spoke to a few people at goodridge and a few commercial hose manuf's, all said the ammount it would expand, if any, was negligabubble. Quote
Nick M Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 Braided hose relies on the braiding to stop expansion What if the braiding fails (for whatever reason) Personal opinion of course.......................... (its my A*** on the line dont forget cos I put it together !!! IMO there is NO specific benefit in using braided all the way except that it is easier to fit No, it's the entire way that the hose is constructed with the teflon tube which prevents the expansion, not just the outer braiding. This is based on conversations I had with Goodridge and Think Auto before selecting the appropriate hose for the job. And granted there are no specific benefits, other than ease of fitment (which I happen to think is quite a big point in favour or braided hoses), but there are no specific down-sides either. IMExperience.... Quote
Glen_I Posted November 3, 2003 Author Posted November 3, 2003 I know what you all mean about any expansion within the hose, but they get used on all sorts of motorsport applications through out the car, a friend who used to prepare rally cars used it, and he has now been driving for works teams for 10 years, who also used it through out. If its good enough for the forest at silly speeds.......its good enough for me.......... Quote
Nick M Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 It's much like the argument you sometimes see which says that you *have* to use steel braided hose with the re-usable fittings when making up fuel injection or dry sump hoses. Despite the fact that Aeroquip make a perfectly satisfactory hose (FC322) which takes push on fittings which, provided you fit them properly of course, is more than up to the pressures and temperatures you're likely to encounter and which is also lighter and easier to work with. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which option I went for... (again, based on discussions with Think Auto) Quote
Tony B Posted November 4, 2003 Posted November 4, 2003 Ok so on the same thread, the geezer wot built my car routed the Brake hoses on the upper inside RH side of the transmission tunnel... Seems ok.. For some obscure reason he mounted the P Clips for the Metal Fuel pipe along the tunnel pipework but on the underside of the car e.g. is below the level of the floorpan. Ive heard this may be a fail and Ill have to re-route it.. Is this correct.. Not too much of a hassle but I expect when its done Ill have several rivet bases rattling around inside the pipework and of course quite a few holes to fill and paint.... Quote
S8ight Posted November 4, 2003 Posted November 4, 2003 but there are no specific down-sides either. IMExperience.... it does cost a tiny bit more than normal pipe though Quote
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