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They're getting a bit girlified aren't they!
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They're getting a bit girlified aren't they!

:D  :D

The two concepts were known internally as  "Tool" and "Cool"... I think that says enough... :laugh:  :laugh:

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There both about as beautiful as a H2. I am sure they will do well in the US market.
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Is that 'cool' as in the one bloke that turns up at the party in a funny tie claiming to be whacky and zany? Anything proclaiming to be cool instantly loses all cool points.

The proportions look all out of whack, hopefully they'll sort it out for the production version.

The bloke next to me at work's son has just started with JLR, maybe it was his first design job, bless him! Another one of my biking mates has just moved to coventry to work there too and I wouldn't trust him to design a mouse trap, maybe it was him?

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Hardly the right wheels for "Tool"! I could imagine the farmers' comments might be quite pithy about this as a Defender replacement. Think, for this model, JLR should have left the design to engineers  :p
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Looks a bit hummer ish to me  :(
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Looks a bit bummer ish to me  :(

well there's a surprise  :p

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Hardly the right wheels for "Tool"! I could imagine the farmers' comments might be quite pithy about this as a Defender replacement. Think, for this model, JLR should have left the design to engineers  :p

I was banging on yesterday to one of the designers here that a proper Land Rover needs steel wheels. :bangshead:

Nobody does proper steels wheels any more, and every dumbarse in the world (be they individuals or manufacturers), seems to wants to shoehorn in the biggest blingest poxy alloys possible, with no thought to ride, handling or practicality..... :bangshead:  :bangshead:

:mad:  :mad:

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Hardly the right wheels for "Tool"! I could imagine the farmers' comments might be quite pithy about this as a Defender replacement. Think, for this model, JLR should have left the design to engineers  :p

I was banging on yesterday to one of the designers here that a proper Land Rover needs steel wheels. :bangshead:

Nobody does proper steels wheels any more, and every dumbarse in the world (be they individuals or manufacturers), seems to wants to shoehorn in the biggest blingest poxy alloys possible, with no thought to ride, handling or practicality..... :bangshead:  :bangshead:

:mad:  :mad:

Alloys are one thing; but low profiles, on a Defender  :bangshead:  :bangshead:  :bangshead:  :bangshead: Has the utter knobski that styled this. (Refuse to glorify them by calling them a designer) ever actually been off road?

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Alloys are one thing; but low profiles, on a Defender  :bangshead:  :bangshead:  :bangshead:  :bangshead: Has the utter knobski that styled this. (Refuse to glorify them by calling them a designer) ever actually been off road?

To be totally fair:

When a concept/styling exercise is shown publicly the tendency for all auto-manufacturers is to show the top model loaded with full bling.  :bangshead:

If they were to show a flat green base model on steelies and knobblies the yuppies who want them as style accoutrements would get a bit antsy and p*ssy... :p  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

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Fairy Muff on a RR Sport, but even the Disco 4 HSE I had, though a little big wheeled, and very Cheshire set in the lighting department, still didn't go down the ultra low profile route.
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Fairy Muff on a RR Sport, but even the Disco 4 HSE I had, though a little big wheeled, and very Cheshire set in the lighting department, still didn't go down the ultra low profile route.

Don't get me started on lighting.... :mad:  :mad:

LED, HID and other technological "advances" are allowing designers a much freer rein with the appearance of lamps on modern cars..... :down:

Most designers seem to go totally overboard with the bling factor and we end up with lights on prestige vehicles that look like they've been specced by a  12 yr old pre-pubescent schoolboy with a stash of cheap aftermarket Halfrauds stylee tat..IMNSFHO   :bangshead:  :bangshead:

Perpetrators of the current batch of daytime running lights on Audis, Merc's and Citroens  (amongst many other) should be taken outside and summarily executed .... :laugh:  :laugh:  :bangshead:   :laugh:  :laugh:

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leave the icon Defender alone.......... nowt wrong with it.... except they are windy... underpowered and generally crappy..... BUT thats how we like them.....
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But Range Rovers aren't used for off roading any more. They're purely for buying something that's bigger than next door's car as a status symbol to park next to the gold plated pee'ing statue of themselves.

Farmers won't give a rats because they will never buy it, they'll keep the old trusty Defender going for another 50 years.

And by that reasoning, it does a great job of what it was designed to do. A big, spangly, useless posing pouch to drop the kids off at school in. A crass display of wealth for the 80s show-off generation. Most of them will be sold in white.

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