mb893 Posted July 20, 2003 Posted July 20, 2003 To quote Mr Clarkson - You are scrapping the bottom of the barrel for ideas aren't you! I'd of thought that that 'recommendation' alone is reason enough to see the light and embrace the warm buzzy glow that is BECdom Quote
hilux Posted July 20, 2003 Posted July 20, 2003 Ahem..... back to BEC`s and torque.............. I`m still a bit sceptical as you know from my past posts so I decided to watch all the cars at the hairpin at Mallory (I even missed one of my runs ) I`m afraid it was patently clear (to me) that the CEC`s pulled away from this slow bend a lot quicker especially the rover engined cars who (ahem ) have oodles of torque and the CEC`s *seemed* to brake into it quicker as the BEC`s were still changing down right on the bend. On the rest of the circuit it all seemed level pegging. Maybe a less tortuous circuit like Silverstone would offer more meaningful comparisons. This is my impression, not opinion and is not meant to be criticism........................................ and is certainly not posted out of spite cos no-one offered me a ride in a BEC on the day Quote
Bazzer Posted July 20, 2003 Posted July 20, 2003 Interesting Gary Foster has a VX power car with an SBD 208BHP engine. It is built to a similar spec to a BEC ie aeroscreen no heater etc. The accelaration is pretty much identical to my Busa. He starts to get a little advantage after around 100mph. At the moment mine corners slightly better but that might change once he has his new arb and front springs. I love my BEC but I like Gary's car as well, but if it was mine I would have to fit a sequential box :-) In fact if Gary sorted his gearbox out it would probably faster in a straight line. The cars lap a track within a knatts chuff of each other and cost roughly the same amount of money. Cheers Bazzer Quote
neilwillis Posted July 20, 2003 Posted July 20, 2003 To quote Mr Clarkson - You are scrapping the bottom of the barrel for ideas aren't you! I'd of thought that that 'recommendation' alone is reason enough to see the light and embrace the warm buzzy glow that is BECdom If you read the last line of that posting, you'd see that because Clarkson hates 'em, I said it had to be BEC. Quote
neilwillis Posted July 20, 2003 Posted July 20, 2003 what about twin bike engines ? Did that one ever get sold? Quote
rdalong Posted July 21, 2003 Posted July 21, 2003 Why have two engines when you can have this with one!!!! oh, this is also the kit which I have just ordered Ric Quote
Bazzer Posted July 21, 2003 Posted July 21, 2003 Hi Ric I take it that is without the Nitrous ? Really interested to see how all this works. If it can handle track day abuse Ric I could be tempted myself. Cheers Bazzer Quote
mb893 Posted July 21, 2003 Posted July 21, 2003 If you read the last line of that posting Errrm, I did - hence my comment - but just to clarify.... Clarkson? Oh boy, Mr. perm himself, now that's an opinion to tale seriously then. Hi Ric, Thought you'd ordered this kit a while ago? How's it going? Quote
rdalong Posted July 21, 2003 Posted July 21, 2003 Engine arrives today or tomorrow, the turbo items should be only another week or two away. Slight delay due to Garrett updating their T25 turbo to a slightly more efficient design (+20bhp) so worth the delay. Max power will be 380 bhp without the nitrous which will be added as this will be even easier now than on the blade engine, and with a turbo, use less nitrous for more power Should be able to handle track day use if precautions are taken. On the bike these guys seriously abuse it! Ric Quote
rdalong Posted July 21, 2003 Posted July 21, 2003 For those interested You mentioned today if I would beable/willing to export turbo systems to the UK. Absolutely! I have already looked into it for one individual in the UK that was considering it for a motorcycle. There is a few options that we can do as far as payment and taxes, one is the use of paypal on the Internet. I know with using regular credit cards and check payments we might entale more taxes and fees. Also I did a shipping quote with fed ex international, it was a little more that 100 dollars. If you could give me a usable address in the UK I can get a more accurate quote. Here is the current web page for the stage II Hayabusa turbo system we offer. http://www.totalkaosperformance.com/velo/turbo/1300.html Also here is the latest dyno graphs for the upgraded dual ball bearing turbo This one shows the 437 hp http://www.totalkaosperformance.com/velo/turbo/437_2.jpg This one shows the 288 lbs of torque http://www.totalkaosperformance.com/velo/turbo/288_2.jpg As far as support goes, I am always willing to help anyone, anytime. And as far as the possible needed modifications for the Westfield cars, if we do find that there needs to be anything done, we will do it............. You're making me want one of these now ;-) Any questions you can think of feel free to ask away. I'll be checking on the status of your kit. Thank you, Kevin http://www.superkaos.com So far his service and support has been very good and can be recommended. Ric Quote
hilux Posted July 23, 2003 Posted July 23, 2003 Max power will be 380 bhp Why??? Unuseable IMO and possibly dangerous in a light car such as westy. I seem to recall a 330 bhp ZEi220 that was reported to be silly to drive hard. Quote
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