Hmm Always thought this might happen,,,

[brindle]

Blimmin flip, I only meant to say it was an interesting article.  my nipper is a nightmare for speeding, I caught him on camera last month taking the pee, driving without a seatbelt and driving like a child, I tried to chastise him but he just laughed at me - here is the footage, what do you think I should do?

[adamnreeves]

End of the day speeding is speeding, if you start changing the stipulations you start creating loop holes, and maybe i'm being rude and stereotypical but do you really believe a 21 year old in a Porsche 911 turbo was driving sensibly? Sorry I just don't see Daddy's best little boy obeying the rules i'm afraid. Like all teh kids round here putting photos on facebook with them driving teh car sat on teh window sil, leap frogging each other on blind bends, going thru red lights at 5-6pm when people are walkikng home from work, I could go on forever, but I won't, just annoys me that I get tarnished by the same brush all the time, the reason I can't afford to insure my car this year Lifes a b***h. Unlucky.

I would have agreed with your stereotypical view... had I not had a 21year old son who is a professional driver and a good one at that. He not only has driven more miles than I have by now but also driven faster and bigger cars.  

[carpetstu]

Facts first -

He is 21 years old and driving a Porsche 911 with a speed detection jammer.

He wasn't caught for speeding he was banned for having the device fitted to the car.

What we don't know -

If it was his car or he had loaned it?

If daddy brought it?

If he had brought the car with it fitted and never had the foresight to remove it.?

Where he was when he was stopped. ?

IMHO there are not enough facts in the journalists report for me to make a comment as to the guys reasons for owning a car like that at his age or his driving ability. He should not have had the device fitted as it is illegal but as for the rest who knows why it was on the car?

As for kids - I have had more near misses with idiot teenagers ,  than 21 year old's in hot hatches, both on foot and bikes especially outside school at kicking out time, due to the fact they think they have the right to act like morons and cant use footpaths or road sense.

The other scourge is idiot teenagers on Mopeds. They have a death wish and think 30mph top speed is enough to perform tarmac aerobatics!

[echoz]

Brindle, I think it is necessary to confiscate the car and give the young man a 60 pound ticket and 3 points! We have to make an example out of them

Adam, as I said, it's juts a stereotype, but lets be honest, the majority don't help the case of young drivers I'm only 20, so not ment to cause offence

Stu, again I agree, was in a crap mood yesterday and granted not knowing all the facts, my comment is a bit harsh, but why do all the things I said come to mind when the words 21 year old + Porsche + driving offence = my stereotypes

However if indeed it is a case of journalism not telling teh whole truth, then it is another excuse of making young adults look bad

Hope I didn't offend anyone

[Doug Dastardly]

I don't mind speed cameras and police speed traps when they are strategically placed e.g. bad junctions, schools etc. It's hard to argue against that.

My problem with them otherwise is twofold:

1) They indiscriminately catch and punish people for straying over the speed limit, sometimes at times and in places where safety is not an issue. This can alienate law abiding people from the police, and makes speeding offences so common that its not really taken seriously any more.

2) Speed cameras have caused a reduction in dedicated traffic police. The standard of driving is terrifying now, I seldom go on the roads without seeing something potentially dangerous or at least inconsiderate. Speed traps do nothing to address this problem and its this sort of driving that causes accidents. Driving over the limit by itself does not cause accidents.

The last time I was caught by police officers they gave me the paperwork for a producer and fine and that was it. NO warning on the dangers of speed or anything. Just fined and on my way. Do they even take speeding seriously any more?

Using a jammer is clearly showing an intent to speed though and asking for trouble. (this bit just so I stay in topic!)

Rant over,

Doug

[carpetstu]

No offence taken Echoz    

My only point in my post is that everyone can not be branded with a stereotypical view.  

I also  have my faults and are very aware of most of them  (including my driving habits )  

[echoz]

Road rage    

[carpetstu]

Road rage    

Nah  I try not to get irritated when driving  

But my right foot does get carried away with high spirits on occasion  

[echoz]

I miss driving my car already

[lippydave]

Sheesh, all else aside, being 21yrs old and having access to a Porsche 911 is NOT a crime under UK law....

Especially if it makes middle aged men in home-built plastic cars angry....  

The lad got nicked for having an illegal camera jammer, that's what he has been prosecuted for.....

The fact that he me may be  "Considerable richer than yoooowwww...." is neither here nor there....

Common or garden jealousy is a fairly petty reason to rant....        

[echoz]

[samcooke]

It's actually misreported - he was done in an Astra.

911 owners never speed.

From here : http://www.edp24.co.uk/news...._686223

Jamie Shreeve, 21, of Covent Garden Road, Caister, is only the second driver in Norfolk to be successfully prosecuted for using such a device - and he is the first in the county to be given a driving ban for it.

The result of the Great Yarmouth court hearing was welcomed by two Acle road traffic police officers who have been spearheading a clampdown on the high-tech speeders.

Sgt Geoff Bowers and PC Chris Harris only became aware of the gadgets - fixed to the outside of cars and wired up under the dashboard with an on-off switch - when they stopped a turbo-charged Porsche 911 on the A47 in March.

They have since come across dozens of similar devices, costing up to £500 and marketed on the internet as parking sensors, and at least 10 other drivers are waiting to come to court following Shreeve.

Sgt Bowers said: “This is the first case in Norfolk in which a motorist has been banned from driving for using a laser jamming device.

I’m extremely pleased with this result which shows that the courts are taking these offences seriously.

“People using laser jamming devices have no regard for speed limits and therefore put themselves and other road users in danger.

“I hope this sentence acts as a warning to other drivers considering fitting such devices to their vehicles.”

Shreeve, an offshore worker, admitted the willful obstruction of a police officer, and the prosecution agreed to drop a second charge of exceeding the 70mph speed limit.

Gary Mayle, prosecuting, said Sgt Bowers was conducting speed checks from the bridge over the A47 at Acle on October 2 when he noticed a black Vauxhall Astra rapidly making ground on other vehicles and appearing to be travelling at over 70mph.

However, when he pointed his speed gun at the car it failed to supply a speed reading.

He radioed to officers to stop the Astra at the Acle roundabout and on examining the car they discovered the sensor on the front and the other elements of the laser jammer, including the wiring under the dashboard and the on-off switch inside.

The officers seized the vehicle and removed the laser jammer.

In interview, Shreeve said he had paid £200 for the device and fitted it himself.

He said he had done it to safeguard his job as his company did not tolerate employees being prosecuted for speeding.

Mr Mayle asked magistrates to consider imposing a discretionary driving ban.

Annette Hall, mitigating, said: “This device is not illegal to sell and not illegal to purchase and that is clearly an area that needs to be looked at.”

She said Shreeve had gone to a reputable outlet intending just to buy a sensor to help him park, but perhaps a reflection of his age and maturity, had come away with a device that was also a laser jammer.

She said: “There are numerous devices like these to be found on the internet that can be set up as a parking sensor as well.

“He accepts that because he had it switched on he was willfuly obstructing the police officer.”

Fining Shreeve £100 with £85 costs in addition to the ban, magistrates said it was a “premeditated deliberate action to avoid detection for speeding”.

[dstorey]

Blimmin flip, I only meant to say it was an interesting article.  my nipper is a nightmare for speeding, I caught him on camera last month taking the pee, driving without a seatbelt and driving like a child, I tried to chastise him but he just laughed at me - here is the footage, what do you think I should do?

He's growing up fast Dan, he'll want the keys next to just pop out for sweets...