Alpha Webcon Gold...

[cerbera1971]

Anyone know how these compare with Jenveys and say Omex or MBE. I know that they can only be tweaked by authorised dealers, but are they inferior / better / as good as?

Opinions please  

[DreamingNeonBlack]

Webcon should be Westfield official supplier for engine mgmt system.

I'll be glad to read some feedbacks and I hope they're top level for quality & performance!

[Blatman]

I'm sure the Weber Alpha units will perform as expected. There are enough of them out there. The biggest bugbear is that they cannot be re-configured by those of us who want to and are able to, to the same extent that many other ECU's can. I don't know how much actual re-configuration you can do with a Weber Alpha but I am led to believe that the amount of user input is quite limited. It is that which is the biggest isue for many of us. Just because they supply Westfield is no guarantee of anything. And remember Westfield have used MBE in the past too...

[Bean]

Personally, I'd look for another supplier.

I have an old ignition only Alpha ECU, nobody has the software to touch. I'll be dumping it eventually in favour of something more user friendly.

[cerbera1971]

Thanks for the opinions.  

[DreamingNeonBlack]

They can supply the kit with various software map deliverying power outputs from 200hp (on Duratec 2.0 engine). I'd just start buying the one I need.

I'm not so sure that the end-user could easily find a better map than the one supplied by Alpha...

[stephenh]

Westfield haven't used Webcon Alpha on new complete cars or complete kits for about two and a half years now. They use KMS system, which you need a code to access.

Webcon Alpha systems are mapable by a Webcon Alpha dealer I believe. Why not give Troy or Steve a ring at Northampton Motorsport if you want a Webcon ecu re-mapping. Like Blatman says, however, the drawback is as I understand it you cant remap the Webcon yourself, always assuming assuming you know how to!!

[Blatman]

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I'm not so sure that the end-user could easily find a better map than the one supplied by Alpha...

If the map isn't specifically for *your* engine, then there may well be a surprisingly large gains to be had. Mapping our engines, which are born from tin tops but devoid of manufacturer induction and exhausts, is a bespoke job. It is nigh on impossible for *any* company to come up with a "one size fits all" map for our cars. There are just too many variables.

Ford / Vauxhall et al can do it because they have tightly controlled manufacturing tolerances so the engines are identical from one week to the next, and they've spent *millions* getting the maps correct for those tightly controlled parameters. Our cars have differening intakes, exhausts, air filters, fuel pressures, timing values, rev ranges etc etc, making mapping a necessarilly individual job.

[DreamingNeonBlack]

I understand your point for point of view of those how build their own cars.

I expect everything to be almost at its best in a Westfield supplied build kit.

My Alpha kit has ECU + throttle bodies + injectors + Pipercross air filter in one single package so the only factors to be adjusted come from the exhaust side, where everything it's standard Westfield stuff (4-2-1 manifold & silencer).

[Blatman]

The exhaust will affect the inlet side. Unless the map has been designed for your exhaust parameters when taking in to account the inlet parameters, then it may not be as good as you think. That's not to say it's going to be *bad* or harmful to the car, but it could be better.

At the risk of sounding patronising (I'm NOT patronising you, just trying to give an example)... if I buy a TV, when I get it home and switch it on, it works. The colours are good and the volume is fine. BUT... I always adjust the colour and volume settings to suit me, not what the TV manufacturer thinks I want...