Boycey Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Just been fitting my fixed JK Composite passenger seat in my narrow body car. Wondering how people have fitted them with the seat belts. It had 3 point harnesses fitted before but the seats didnt have headrests. As it only has 1 bolting point on the back at the top is this normal??? Any pics or advice would help me lots Quote
Blatman Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Single harness point on a narrow is normal. In use, the strapes will go over your shoulders and clear the seat so they should be fine. To convert to 4 points, ask Westfield for 4 suitable bosses and weld them on to the top chassis rail, 2 behind each seat obviously. Plenty of us have done this in the past... Quote
Boycey Posted January 16, 2010 Author Posted January 16, 2010 Is this fitted ok or have i caused problems with seatbelts. The base of the seat is on the floor. tfwebdesign Your seat sits a lot higher than mine altough the seat is different to mine. Is yours fixed or on a runner. Quote
RichP Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 They look a similar height to mine - a bit lower perhaps but not much. It does appear that you'll have to weld new bosses for your shoulder straps though. Sorry I can't post a pic as my seats are in the loft for the winter! Quote
Johnson Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 On my narrow I had to cut off the original harness fixings as the top fixing didnt align in the middle of the seats similar to what yours looks like in the final picture. Previously there were bench seats fitted to it. I fitted MK seats obviously very similar to yours. Quote
Tom Frankland (T3OMF) Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 Mine are on runners....... Quote
Boycey Posted January 19, 2010 Author Posted January 19, 2010 Spoke to Westfield they cant sell me the fixing points for 4 point seat belts. As im modifying the chassis so not allowed to sell them. Not a problem i can get some made easily. Ordered Sabelt 4 point westfield harnesses at the Autosport show so should be here soon. My drivers seat is on runners when it comes back from Jk composites. Quote
BEN99W Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 Spoke to Westfield they cant sell me the fixing points for 4 point seat belts. As im modifying the chassis so not allowed to sell them. must be a new law /policy then because I bought some seatbelt anchors from westfield to modify mine about 4 years ago... Perhaps they took pity on the fact I had nasty inertia reel three-pointers Quote
Blatman Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 What a load of dangler... modifying the chassis... so making a safety improvement that is A) a factory option, and B) has been done *thousands* of times without problem, is now a safety issue? Westfield, if you're reading this... get a grip... seriously... And if they don't play ball, buy some bosses from a LoCost supplier, Dax, MNR, Caterham, or just about any kit car supplier manufacturer in the UK. Probably be cheaper from somewhere else anyway... Quote
brindle Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 What a load of dangler... modifying the chassis... so making a safety improvement that is A) a factory option, and B) has been done *thousands* of times without problem, is now a safety issue? Westfield, if you're reading this... get a grip... seriously... And if they don't play ball, buy some bosses from a LoCost supplier, Dax, MNR, Caterham, or just about any kit car supplier manufacturer in the UK. Probably be cheaper from somewhere else anyway... The only thing you can think is that in light of recent 'blocked threads' their legal advisors have told them that they cannot issue advice or encourage their customers to modify the chassis' and any work they do themselves will be massivlely scrutinised. I work for a hugely risk adverse company and this would be the typical repsonse they would give in a parallel situation. Unfortunately its another side effect of the parasite that is the personal injury claim industry. I had a guy call me the other day asking me if I could think of any time in the last 5 years I have been injured or hurt myself. I politely told him to f*** off as it is becasue of people like him and the company he works for that our insurance premiums are up, my son won't be able to play conkers in the playground, or throw snowballs, my parents window cleaning of their bungalow has doubled in price becuase a man going more than 3 steps up a ladder needs someone footing it now, I cant buy anything stronger than tixylix without an interview with the pharmacist and that if the scrote who comes to steal my car slips on the ice on my footpath, he can sue me for not salting it. Quote
Blatman Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 Not sure how risk aversion comes in to it, when they are selling cars that, with the exception of the chassis, have the potential to have *everything* else second hand, and none of it reconditioned in a worst case scenario. So owner A can't change the harness anchors, but he can fit 30 year old Cortina uprights and hubs with the original bearings... yeah, that'll work... Quote
brindle Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 Not sure how risk aversion comes in to it, when they are selling cars that, with the exception of the chassis, have the potential to have *everything* else second hand, and none of it reconditioned in a worst case scenario. So owner A can't change the harness anchors, but he can fit 30 year old Cortina uprights and hubs with the original bearings... yeah, that'll work... But there is a difference between bolting on a reconditioned part and welding on a lump of metal that potentially will save you life, with an arc welder your old next door neighbour gave you when he moved. I stand to be corrected, but I dont think Westfield would sell you an unreconditioned item which forms an integral part of the safety of the vehicle either. Quote
Blatman Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 My point is, how do you reconcile selling kit cars, which by definition can be built by anyone, then say that a couple of bosses added to make a safety improvement is not something Westfield feel comfortable doing. Can you not see the irony? Quote
brindle Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 My point is, how do you reconcile selling kit cars, which by definition can be built by anyone, then say that a couple of bosses added to make a safety improvement is not something Westfield feel comfortable doing. Can you not see the irony? Absolutley - and you're spot on - but unfortunately it doesn't stop unbelievably blinkered decisions like this being made sometimes because of perhaps just one person deciding its a risk! Quote
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