Nick Algar - Competition Secretary Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 I have got one of the Sony Handycam's which uses Mini DV tapes. I didn't come with any software and I can't seem to download any from the Sony website. But I want to download the videos from the tape to the computer. The model is a HC42E, anyone got one and can tell me how you do it ? Cheers Nick Quote
JeffC Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 well it must be b****y easy as I have the same sony corder and i can do it I do mine through windows movie maker oh and I use a firewire whatever one of those is Quote
Nick Algar - Competition Secretary Posted September 21, 2009 Author Posted September 21, 2009 oh and I use a firewire whatever one of those is Ah, heard of them, but ain't got one. That might be why !! Quote
Andrew Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 Nick, why dont you ask your "other" son to do it.... Quote
Nick Algar - Competition Secretary Posted September 21, 2009 Author Posted September 21, 2009 Nick, why dont you ask your "other" son to do it.... Sounds like between Pete and Jeff we ought to have it licked then Can you let Pete know, would like to have a solution, so that I can do it myself in future. Cheers Nick Quote
Pilot Pete Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 Nick, You need either a USB cable or a firewire. If your PC supports firewire, go for that as its better quality. If you go down the USB route, you might also have to download a driver here. Then you should be able to go into windows moviemaker, select file, capture video and follow the destructions. If you get really stuck, I could pop round and have a luke, dum dum! Always nice to see the family! Quote
Nick Algar - Competition Secretary Posted September 21, 2009 Author Posted September 21, 2009 Nick, You need either a USB cable or a firewire. If your PC supports firewire, go for that as its better quality. If you go down the USB route, you might also have to download a driver here. Then you should be able to go into windows moviemaker, select file, capture video and follow the destructions. If you get really stuck, I could pop round and have a luke, dum dum! Always nice to see the family! Thanks Pete, just tried it with the USB. but can't get it to work. Will PM you to arrange a few beers. Cheers Nick Quote
Pilot Pete Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 Nick, You need either a USB cable or a firewire. If your PC supports firewire, go for that as its better quality. If you go down the USB route, you might also have to download a driver here. Then you should be able to go into windows moviemaker, select file, capture video and follow the destructions. If you get really stuck, I could pop round and have a luke, dum dum! Always nice to see the family! Thanks Pete, just tried it with the USB. but can't get it to work. Will PM you to arrange a few beers. Cheers Nick Have you tried downloading the driver I posted, pretty sure you need to install that before being able to get the USB cable to work. PM me some details and I'll pop round one night this week. I'll even bring my other dad along if you want to talk old anchors! Quote
mark.anson Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 Nick I think I have a firewire cable you can borrow if you like. Ill pass it on to Luke if you want it. Mark Quote
BigRuss Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 I had a nightmare getting my sony camera to work with USB. Gave up in the end and bought a firewire card for about a tenner. With firewire it worked straight away under vista. Quote
blankczechbook Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 firewire is quicker than usb - i find capture with movie maker to be very slow to create the file. there are some other dv capture freeware tools about that are quicker. capture onto d or e drive, as if you try to capture onto c then you might get more dropped frames as the pc tries to do other work with windows at the same time.... Quote
Blatman Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 firewire is quicker than usb - i find capture with movie maker to be very slow to create the file. Er... Firewire (IEEE1394), at up to 400Mbits/s is quicker than USB1.1, but not USB2. If you have a PC that's about 6 years old or newer, you almost certainly have USB2. Firewire 2 is out (IEEE1394b) which is faster than USB2. USB2 is around 480Mbits/s data rate. Firewire 2 is 800Mbits/s. Quality is a non issue because both simply transfer data down a cable. The differences lie in cable length allowed and power and stuff like that, but NOT quality. However, in practice, Firewire 400 will probably run a little bit faster than USB2, especially if you have an older machine. On newer fast processor machines it'll be negligible. Firewire is also arguably more reliable than USB, but my point being that if you have USB2 there's no *need* to buy Firewire. If you want to though, go right ahead... If you want to get really geeky though USB3 is supposed to be out shortly. Speeds of 5Gbits/s are claimed, but in reality it'll be slower than that. It's still piggin' fast though. Firewire S800t is around and as suggested also runs at (only) 800Mbits/s, but it does away with the traditional Firewire connectors in favour of good old RJ45's. The plan is to make the RJ45 interface on the PC work with either ethernet or Firewire cables, so no need for another connector hole in the PC. Fibre Optic Firewire in on the way too (IEEE1394D). That'll be fast By the way, the name Firewire was coined by Apple. Sony call it i-Link... Quote
Captain Colonial Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 firewire is quicker than usb - i find capture with movie maker to be very slow to create the file. Er... Firewire (IEEE1394), at up to 400Mbits/s is quicker than USB1.1, but not USB2. If you have a PC that's about 6 years old or newer, you almost certainly have USB2. Firewire 2 is out (IEEE1394b) which is faster than USB2. USB2 is around 480Mbits/s data rate. Firewire 2 is 800Mbits/s. Quality is a non issue because both simply transfer data down a cable. The differences lie in cable length allowed and power and stuff like that, but NOT quality. However, in practice, Firewire 400 will probably run a little bit faster than USB2, especially if you have an older machine. On newer fast processor machines it'll be negligible. Firewire is also arguably more reliable than USB, but my point being that if you have USB2 there's no *need* to buy Firewire. If you want to though, go right ahead... If you want to get really geeky though USB3 is supposed to be out shortly. Speeds of 5Gbits/s are claimed, but in reality it'll be slower than that. It's still piggin' fast though. Firewire S800t is around and as suggested also runs at (only) 800Mbits/s, but it does away with the traditional Firewire connectors in favour of good old RJ45's. The plan is to make the RJ45 interface on the PC work with either ethernet or Firewire cables, so no need for another connector hole in the PC. Fibre Optic Firewire in on the way too (IEEE1394D). That'll be fast By the way, the name Firewire was coined by Apple. Sony call it i-Link... qwertyuiop[] asdfghjkl;'# \zxcvbnm,./ Oops, sorry about that, just woke up after falling asleep face down on my keyboard. My bad for opening a techy geek thread. Quote
Nick Algar - Competition Secretary Posted September 22, 2009 Author Posted September 22, 2009 I had a nightmare getting my sony camera to work with USB. Gave up in the end and bought a firewire card for about a tenner. With firewire it worked straight away under vista. That's where I am at the moment Russ, tried evrything I can thing of, downloaded Pete's driver, still no joy. Booking in at the experts (Pete) for wed eve, so should be sorted. THanks for the tips Blatman, I think what you are trying to say, is they are all getting upgraded. As I will be playing the video tape I don't think it will make much difference to it. BUT great technical info, I'll book the extra degree course to be able to understand it Quote
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