O/T... would you bodge and not declare it?

[Major Stare]

Looking at getting SWMBO tin top (04 Renault Scenic) p/x'd over the next few days for a newer car (Nissan Note).

Looking at taking it to the dealership this weekend for a valuation before aggreing a valuation and p/x deal.

One of rear near side windows is currently held up with tape, as the other week the regulator packed up.  

Its a costly item to replace and i dont have time.

Do i....

(1) Leave the tape on?

(2) Not take it & get it repaired next week?

(3) Take the inside door panel off, raise the window on the runner, and apply a small dab of Loctite to the mechanism to keep it in place?

[Nick PC]

Bodge it and run, if they don't check it is their fault  

[barney]

expensive...not half about 250 notes from renault,we had one go on our scenic,just in warranty...thank  f**k

 

[pistonbroke]

Ask youself how you would feel if some one sold you a duff  

[Mid life crisis]

I would suggest that honesty is the best policy      explain to the salesman that the rear window is f****d, and you believe that the other three should be OK, but you can't be sure. Then accept the £250.00 hit, plus a reasonable margin in case the others fail.

You can then pick up your new car with a clear conscience.

goodness me  

               

                 

[peterg]

Bodge it, the dealership won't care as the car will almost certainly get moved on to a 2ndhand dealer or straight to auction...  

if you think there is any morality or honesty in any car dealers then you are clearly delusional      

*this isn't conjecture or speculation, it's real life experience from within a supposed family owned dealership for a global manufacturer  

[Norman Verona]

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Pete.

OK, so I agree, wonder what Jeff will say.

[peterg]

I thought that might wake you up Norm,

OK, there are probably a couple of 100% honest dealers out there but I bet they kick themselves at least a couple of times a month for losing money through it...

You and I both know what really happens, it's the 'innocents' on here and elsewhere that believe the motor trade behaves in the way we all like to think we should that I feel sorry for, they must be so proud whilst they wave goodbye to hundreds if not thousands of their hard earned money...

My late Dad and Gill's Dad were the same in their dealings about cars, walk into a dealer look around the showroom, find a nice car and say 'how much is that?' when told they signed the forms and drove it away  

[stu999]

OK, there are probably a couple of 100% honest dealers out there

Is there???    

[david.c]

3 if it's going to a dealer

[samcooke]

4) Get the part off ebay for c. £40.

[Norman Verona]

It's not only the dealers. I had the police arrest a customer for attempted fraud. They bought a very nice car in for PX. It was valued and a deal done. Then on changeover the car presented was not the same as the one presented a few weeks earlier.

They coughed and got a 3 month prison sentence.

But it's usually the dealer. To be honest for most of the time they are only trying to maximise profit. When I say that the volume franchise cars that are sold generate £30 profit an, possibly a bonus if they sell enough, have the right coffee machine and desks.

But.. I was standing in the showroom of our first computer system user installing the terminals. An elderly couple walked in a were looking at a new Nissan Sunny. The salesman approaches (full marks for that) and opens with "Really nice cars these Sunnys. I can give you 10% discount if you want to buy one"

It's no wonder the manufacturers hold the dealers in contempt.

[Martin Keene]

No 3...

The last car I part ex'd was in serious need of:

1) 2 tyres (if you were being picky the rears were past there best to) £200-400

2) full service -£150

3) mot - £50

4) cam belt - £300

5) occasionaly made a clonk from the front suspension, which according to vRS forums was likely to be wishbone bushes at 70k on the clock. £

So I was looking at spending a minimum of £700 on it, £900 with rear tyres, and more for the wishbones. Not likely...

[brianm]

Don't declare it. The deal is down to the inspection.

Loctite sounds a bit hit or miss in this case. Disconnect the motor after getting the window up. Worst case wedge/chewinggum /or blu tak it in place    

PS, It is a Renault so they will expect a few faults

[B5234FT]

"sold as seen"