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Was doing a bit of 'spring cleaning' today and saw to my surprise that that there doesn't seem to be much sign of the rear disks being gripped by the calipers on the insides.  Maybe that's why they squeal at low speeds. Outsides are smooth and polished and look as they should.  Calipers are standard Sierra IIRC and the car seems to stop well nonetheless.

S'pose I'll have to take them apart but what should I be looking for??

Rory's Dad

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Is this the old sliding callipers that don't, slide that is. There used to be a piston each side but the manufacturers in their infinite wisdom said it was better (as in cheaper????) to use one and let the calliper assy slide so as to apply the pad on the other side. Usually the slides get stiffer and stiffer (oerr missus) until they won't slide.

Can they be cleaned so as to work again? Or am I on wrong track altogether?

Posted

Hmmm never noticed that.  The calipers were new when I bought the car so wouldnt have thought the were seized.  Is it the same on both sides?

The squeeling comes from the front brakes, seems most 4 pots do this as they dont have the anti rattle plates the standard M16's have.

Posted

Leon - yup, it's the same on both sides  :(  :(  :(  and I'm sure the squealing comes from the back near side - but it maybe my ears  :D  :D

Assuming they are Sierra disks do I just get the Haynes manual out of the library and follow the instructions??

All advice welcome.

Rory's Dad

Posted

I'd just whip them off and make sure the calipers are sliding freely still.  

Wierd thing is the piston is on the inside, I'd have thought if anything the inside of the disc would have more wear.  Strange.

The calipers are standard sierra, discs are off the front of an escort mk3 I believe, sure its in the build manual.

Just a thought, might be worth winding the handbrake on a bit, maybe there's too much travel??

Posted

as Leon says it would be worth checking the condition of the sliders as they can stick sometimes

Especially *if* the rubber boots/covers have split and some muck has got in

Worth giving them a clean up and a spot of Copper ease to help them

There's an Schematic drawing of the Rear Calipers on here  CLICKY

*If* You decide to check the Pistons be aware that they need to be 'Screwed /Turned' to retract them

(Some folks use an Angle grinder Disc spanner for this)

Got one of these meself and it works a treat

CLICKY

Posted

common on these calipers for the small tag on the back of the pads not to line up with the cut out in the piston. check that they are aligned correctly

this will make them squeal and not contact the disk correctly if missaligned.

hth

Posted
common on these calipers for the small tag on the back of the pads not to line up with the cut out in the piston. check that they are aligned correctly

this will make them squeal and not contact the disk correctly if missaligned.

hth

That sounds more like it. As someone else said, the piston is on the inboard side so non-sliding would mean the outboard side of the disc would be untouched.

Posted
common on these calipers for the small tag on the back of the pads not to line up with the cut out in the piston. check that they are aligned correctly

this will make them squeal and not contact the disk correctly if missaligned.

hth

That sounds more like it. As someone else said, the piston is on the inboard side so non-sliding would mean the outboard side of the disc would be untouched.

That's true, wasn't aware of this. Ignore my first post  :sheep:

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Leon - yup, it's the same on both sides  :(  :(  :(  and I'm sure the squealing comes from the back near side - but it maybe my ears  :D  :D

Assuming they are Sierra disks do I just get the Haynes manual out of the library and follow the instructions??

All advice welcome.

Rory's Dad

Martin be aware that the discs used on the rear are from Ford Escort front end.  :t-up:

ed to add: on a std setup  ;)

Posted

I have just notice the same on my car. Inside of both rear discs are untouched! I also have a squeeling issue at low speeds.

Should a clean up sort it?

Posted

Well I took the car along to our local Quickfit and they stripped everything down but didn't find a problem.  Then they cleaned everything, greased the bits that need greasing, checked it again, checked the fluid level and then gave me the bill for a touch under £15!!  No bad for about 45 mins work.

Good value IMO and the car still stops brilliantly  :D  :D  :D

Rory's Dad

Posted

Did they change the locking bolts on the calliper though?

These are supposed to  be replaced everytime you change the pads on a Golf rear calliper.

Posted
Locking bolts on the calliper, do you mean the ones holding them to the upright?
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Did they change the locking bolts on the calliper though?

These are supposed to  be replaced everytime you change the pads on a Golf rear calliper.

1st post explains they are sierra calipers

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