chrisinoxford Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 Guys. Just took purchase of a spare engine!! 2.0 VX XE Redtop. We are going to strip it down to the bare bones and rebuild it over the next 12 months or so. We intend to make it bigger better faster stonger a bit like the 6 million dollar man, but we dont want to pay as much as the bionic man. What advise would you give as to the rebuild, what parts are worth buying and installing to make this a mean engine. Price is obviusly important but we would consider anything expensive or not. We want to make a really powerfull engine with as many worth while bits as possible. So off you go chaps bulid me an Redtop with serious grunt. Cheers guys. Chris. Quote
Paul Ash Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 Allow 3k. Just doing mine as we speak. & thats not allowing for Injection. I'm moving from SBD 208 kit to 230 kit. Rebore £140 Forged pistons £366 Steel rods £350 Cams £385 Solid lifter, shims, double springs,titanium caps etc £575 Pico injectors £230 fuel rail £55 Fuel Regulator £68 New oil pump £55 Water pump £24 Cam kit £ 57 Top gask set(less head gasket) £ 29 Cometic head gasket £100 Bottom Gask set £24.95 Shells Main Duraglide£45 Head ported & bronze guides £350 Shells BE Glyco £30 All the other things you dont think of £500 i.e fuel lines, oil coolers, clutch plate Verniers £125 I'm not going to add it up as I may get depressed , but it will be worth it If you dont have Tb's then budget for £1600 a well A good exhaust system £1K & if you can afford it aswell Dry sump kit £1k HTH Quote
chrisinoxford Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 Guys Budget unknown, however as its over 12 months i might not see the money disapear so maybe 2k + Paul, thats a hefty list, what sort of HP increase you looking at there? I only want to add stuff thats really gonna work rather than a few HP gain for mucho dollar!! Cheers Chris. Quote
Paul Ash Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 Thats moving from a STD engine on TB's to 230BHP. Maybe a little more as I have added headwork. But the rest of the car was built with this in mind, so Exhaust, Clutch, g/box,propshaft, diff already sorted prior to this upgrade So roughly 30% more power, but putting in the right bits to go futher fairly easily when finances permit. Mainly Valves ,CNC head work & dry sump to go. Quote
perksy Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 Don't spend a ruck of money on building a nice spec' XE and then bolt a standard Westfield or similar exhaust manifold & System on it Budget for nice system... Do a detailed budget for the engine, but be perpared for it to end up more Alot will depend on what you want to use the engine for Quote
cidersurfer Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 ECU £500? Rolling road set up £300? Bottom end balance? £50? Flywheel £100? Cam bolts, head bolts, Mains bolts, flywheel bolts, crank bolt £50? Quote
salexander Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 I could sell you a nice 2.1 block and ported head which would be a very good starting point Oodles of torque and 250bhp+ depending on cams. Also steel rods, head stud kit and a few other nice goodies. Quote
chrisinoxford Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 That would defeat the cause of building myself, incidently how much? Quote
Paul Ash Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 ECU £500?Rolling road set up £300? Bottom end balance? £50? Flywheel £100? Cam bolts, head bolts, Mains bolts, flywheel bolts, crank bolt £50? £1600 gets you ECU, manifold,Tapered TB's, wiring harness, Sensors, TPS, air filter. MAP pre-installed on the ECU. But yes my list is missing Crank balance Lightened flywheel £200 ARP flywheel bolts £50 Swindon Cam belt infill plate £98 Quote
chrisinoxford Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 Paul. If you could only choose 10 things out of your extensive list in order of importance/ power what would they be? Cheers. Quote
mud Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 lightweight crank (standard) arrow rods slipper piston's new oil pump baffled wet sump modified rocker cover cams to suit your driving ability verniers throttle bodies(direct to head) last of all rework the standard vauxhall " low noise" head that already has big enough ports to cope with most of the above. IMHO of course Quote
Paul Ash Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 Neccessary items:- Rebore £ 140 if reqd New oil pump £55 Nylon relief valve kit £50 Water pump £24 Cam kit £ 57 Top gask set(Elring) £ 36 Bottom Gask (Elring)set £24.95 Shells Main Duraglide£45 Shells BE Glyco £30 ARP rod bolts £50 1st stage:- (STD head) 190BHP Lightweight flywheel £200 SBD 208 TB kit or similar £1600 Exhaust £1k Kevlar clutch plate £130 Lowline wet sump £150 Could use Hyd profile cams 2nd stage when funds allow:- 230 - 300BHP Forged pistons £366 Steel Rods £350 Cams £385 Verniers £125 Solid lifter, shims, double springs,titanium caps etc £575 Dry Sump Kit £1K Head ported & bronze guides, valves £350 - £1K Pico injectors £230 fuel rail £55 Fuel Regulator £68 All the other things you dont think of £500 i.e fuel lines, oil coolers, Quote
jeff oakley Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 I would start by asking what do you want the engine for? If it is fast road then there is no need to go to the lenghts of Pauls list. If it is intended to go racing then his list is pretty much spot on. If it is to learn how an engine goes together then again I would do a standard build with blanced bottom end lightened flywheel and possibly omega pistons first. That way you are dealing with the easier bits first before risking damaging really expensive bits like a ported head through lack of experience. It will give you the basis for an engine that is upgrade able. What have you got at the moment, ecu wise induction etc? Quote
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