ESP EC series guitar

[Pilot Pete]

Right, thanks  to all the gents who posted in my last topic I have a good idea on an amp.

BUT, I think everyone will agree, nothing beats a new guitar, so am fancying something semi-decent as my £50 ebay cheapy just doesn't cut it anymore. My boss got a better guitar and it makes him sound so much better than when he plays his £50 cheapy.

The guitars I've been looking at are the ESP EC series, I'm watching a 400 on ebay at the moment but would love a 1000 if the opportunity arose. Anyone else had any experience with these, good or bad?

Cheers

Pete

BTW: EC 1000

[Scottish Bloke]

Try Nick Algar, I've heard he knows a thing or two about  ESP            

Sorry

[Pilot Pete]

Try Nick Algar, I've heard he knows a thing or two about  ESP            

Sorry

And he'd probably do father/son rates too.

[V8grunt]

I have had a few electric guitars in my time, Solids, Semi acoustics.

I am not aware of the model you are looking at on "Flea Bay" but things you should be aware of are,

Neck distortion, worn frets, dodgy pots, ( volume/tone controls!) poor quality tuners, ( the windy things at the pointy end!)

Its impossible to check these things out on "Flea Bay" unless you are near to the seller!

My advise would be to scroll thru the local large distribution news papers and check out whats for sale,

You can pick up some real bargains.

You also may have a music shop near you who may take your old axe in part ex for something they have in stock,

They should have some decent second hand guitars in and will not sell you an egg as they hope to get your custom at a later date!

To check the neck out, hold the guitar flat out in front of you with the neck pointing away if you look along the neck from close to the body of the guitar you should see if there is any distortion!

The "action" can nearly always be lowered to make the thing easier to play.

You can also raise/lower the pick ups to change the sound, They don't want to be to far under the strings as you will loose sustain, and to close you may get a "Buzz" as the string hitting the things!

hope you get sorted,  

[Pilot Pete]

I have had a few electric guitars in my time, Solids, Semi acoustics.

I am not aware of the model you are looking at on "Flea Bay" but things you should be aware of are,

Neck distortion, worn frets, dodgy pots, ( volume/tone controls!) poor quality tuners, ( the windy things at the pointy end!)

Its impossible to check these things out on "Flea Bay" unless you are near to the seller!

My advise would be to scroll thru the local large distribution news papers and check out whats for sale,

You can pick up some real bargains.

You also may have a music shop near you who may take your old axe in part ex for something they have in stock,

They should have some decent second hand guitars in and will not sell you an egg as they hope to get your custom at a later date!

To check the neck out, hold the guitar flat out in front of you with the neck pointing away if you look along the neck from close to the body of the guitar you should see if there is any distortion!

The "action" can nearly always be lowered to make the thing easier to play.

You can also raise/lower the pick ups to change the sound, They don't want to be to far under the strings as you will loose sustain, and to close you may get a "Buzz" as the string hitting the things!

hope you get sorted,  

Cheers for the advise, I've been thinking about it today and agreed, I think I'm probably better parting with my hard earned and buying new.  To be honest I didn't realise so much could get worn out on them, I think with my limited knowledge I would be safer buying new or like you say, used from a shop. There's a couple local to me.

The guitar I currently have is worth nothing I would say, £30 tops, so I wont bother selling it. Another option I have thought of is buying from the states, has anyone ever done this? Would all the import tax's, shipping etc costs wipe out any savings there are to be made?

[V8grunt]

To be honest even buying from the States could cause a problem,

There are lots of "Chinese" copies out there now, not that that's bad as some of the stuff that comes from the land of the rising sun knocks spots of "American" Originals,

I would personally buy second hand, My present guitar is a "Yamaha" AXP7 which retailed at £850 brand new, I swapped a 1988 Fender Strat (which I payed £280 for and kept for 2 years) plus £100 notes for it second hand from a music shop in Derby.

Its an electric acoustic, the last time I saw one being played was on the music video by "The Beautiful South" in the song "Rotterdam"

Guy Pratt who plays bass guitar for Pink Floyd has been spotted playing one to!

[joe Mac]

If you want to buy some good guitars on the net, you can buy one at musicstore, in Koln, Germany. They use carefull post company, the guitars are well protected, they have unbeatable prices. And, if you want to fly direct to them, check on their website, they have good plan for budget fly company. Then, you will be there like in an Ali Baba cavern, with hundreds of guitars to test and to buy.

I've bought several guitars, amps, speakers, mixing desk, .... and never had any problem.

[pistonbroke 2]

The E.S.P. Guitars are famous for the LTD Model .

The Pro quality models are made in the USA and

guys like Kirk Hammet uses E.S.P.

These are Metal Guitars with very high output

pick ups and as such they are not very versatile.

The cheaper versions like the Eclipse in youre Post

are made in China and they are a (Factory Guitar)

probably made by the Pearl River Co.

All the Major manufacturers are turning to these factories

for mass produced volume sales.

A lot of them Superb value for money and many of them

like Yamaha Ibanez Epiphone price hiked because of the

Badge.

I personally would check out the Shine Guitar range and stick to a conventional body shape such as Stratocaster or Les Paul.

The reason being is that you can get aftermarket Pick-Ups

to re- place the Cheapo ones on these guitars.

The Pick Ups on youre mates guitar will make a big difference

to the Pick-Ups on youre entry level model.

Have a look at Seymour Duncan or De-Martzio Pick ups

and youll see what I mean.

oare hav,having

[Pilot Pete]

The E.S.P. Guitars are famous for the LTD Model .

The Pro quality models are made in the USA and

guys like Kirk Hammet uses E.S.P.

These are Metal Guitars with very high output

pick ups and as such they are not very versatile.

The cheaper versions like the Eclipse in youre Post

are made in China and they are a (Factory Guitar)

probably made by the Pearl River Co.

All the Major manufacturers are turning to these factories

for mass produced volume sales.

A lot of them Superb value for money and many of them

like Yamaha Ibanez Epiphone price hiked because of the

Badge.

I personally would check out the Shine Guitar range and stick to a conventional body shape such as Stratocaster or Les Paul.

The reason being is that you can get aftermarket Pick-Ups

to re- place the Cheapo ones on these guitars.

The Pick Ups on youre mates guitar will make a big difference

to the Pick-Ups on youre entry level model.

Have a look at Seymour Duncan or De-Martzio Pick ups

and youll see what I mean.

oare hav,having

Cheers for the advice, I am actually kinda looking for that metal sound so would be quite happy. I've actually been really dumb, had made the decision not to bid and buy new, then stupidly put a bid in for that guitar thinking it would go for way more than I'm bidding. Low and behold I won it! typical! Not sure whether I'm happy or depressed about that, will have to see when I get it. I will be meeting up with the fella at the end of the week to pick it up, will be deffo be buying that amp now anyway to make the most of it.

I might have a look into pickups for my cheapy, it is quite a stirdy unit and feels quite well put together, so like you say, some decent pickups and a decent set of strings for that matter will probably transform it.

I still want more guitars though.

Is there such a thing as too many?

[zoso]

No... It's impossible to buy too many guitars.

I'm still kicking myself for not buying a Squire strat I played in a shop a little while ago (bare with me here)...

I hate fenders, think they sound brilliant for the 25 seconds they are in tune but thats all I can say is good for them...  But someone had set this thing up properly, it was beautiful to play... I ummed and ahhed and didn't get it as I was a bit skint... Wish I had now...

Will Just have to make do with My SG standard and my JagStang for the time being

[Lurksalot]

I still want more guitars though.

Is there such a thing as too many?

No  

On hear you might get upgraditis.

In the music world its called GAS .... Gear Aquisition Syndrome

I've just invested in a Warwick Streamer fretless bass that kept getting re-listed on Ebay , I went to check it out and got myself a bargain .

Quality kit , I've just got to find where all the correct notes are hiding now