BuGsBuNnY Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Anyone know of them? Opinions? In comparison with a westfield? (BEC only) Discuss... Quote
oioi Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 i think the fury is a great looking car with some nice design touches (in board suspension, choice of bodies). I have heard rumblings from perfectionists that there fibreglassing could be better, but i dont think its any worse than westfields. the aero shape suits a low power bec (fireblade) better than the brick shape of the westie, but obvioulsy they are a little heavier due to the extra body work. if i was changing my car I would more than likely have one Quote
congorobot Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 My brother has one and loves it. It certainly has much better aerodynamics than a westy. I think they look good too. The bonnet buldge looks extreme when you are sat in the passenger seat. Quote
Bean Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 I really like them, if I was to ever sell the Westie I'd be tempted buy one of the more powerful BEC Furys. Quote
Foolish Dave Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 The GRP can bit a little undulating, but they look very good and from what I've seen and heard, are very good dynamically. I'd prefer a Ginetta G4 first, but they are in a very different price bracket unfortunately, though the car shows it. Quote
JeffC Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 the ones Ive seen on track seem to have the legs on westfields,there is blade one that races locally that is lapping quicker than megubsa wesfield can. Quote
DanB Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 I'm currently building my second (2k6 R1 powered racer) and third (Blackbird powered road and track car) Furies - I crashed the first one racing at Mallory and wrote it off. The fundamental design of the Fury is very good - it's got the trademark Jeremy Philips (of Sylva Sportscars) front rocker arm suspension, and the rear suspension design (both IRS and live axle) works well. It's been very successful in racing, especially the 750MC RGB formula, and personally I think it's a very attractive car. The kits are less complete than a Westfield kit - there's a lot more to fabricate from scratch but nothing overly complicated. There have been some quality control issues in the past (my racer chassis that I bought just over a year ago required substantial welding to rectify construction errors) but the business has changed hands subsequently and the signs are that this side of things are improving. The GRP is very poor however. There are two problems. The first is that the laminators Fisher use are cr4p. They can't be bothered to consolidate the layup properly, and bodge loads of filler between the gelcoat and GRP layers on all the tighter corners. The net result is lots of voids and a shell that isn't as light or as strong as it should be. The second problem is that the moulds are completely shot - there are clearly starchips and other defects in the moulds, some of which have been poorly repaired with masking tape which leaves an uneven finish on the finished bodyshell. Given the current state of the moulds, I wouldn't recommend getting a Fury unless you're prepared to paint it as the moulds aren't up to producing a good enough finish to leave it in gelcoat. Having said all that, I still think they're great. TBH, I make a lot of my own parts these days so the only parts I buy from the factory are the chassis and the bodyshell - the rest I make from scratch. More details on My Webpage - the current builds are under the 'Furybird II' and 'Fury Racer' headings. DanB Quote
samcooke Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 *waves* I have one. The aero thing is noticeable with a bike engine once you pile the speed on and is doubtless the reason that in the 750MC Road-Going-Bikeengined race series the Furys outperform the 7s. I also prefer the handling of the Fury to a Westfield, just a personal thing, but I find it easier to slide about and control at the limit. The best way to describe it is that it feels to me like it pivots around the driver's A*** rather than his knees/feet as I feel a Westfield does. The GRP is fine, but I'd go for a light colour, the darks I've seen show the imperfections more, the fun thing is that you can choose *any* colour you want, though this somehow makes it harder to choose and I'm still not convinced my *very* light blue was a sensible choice. If you're building there's a lot more fabrication than on a Westfield so get friendly with your local aluminium stockist and elastoplast retailer. They also aren't as practical as a Westy as there's no lockable boot as standard, though I reckon you could build one into the empty sill pod, and when I looked at the weather gear it wasn't worth having, but I'm sure softbits could make something. All things considered, there's never a time I've regretted having one over another Westfield. Quote
Norman Verona Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 I had a party stay here and one of the guys had an older Fury with a Fiat twin cam engine. I had a good look over it and it was very well made. The body looked like most F/Glass bodies I've seen - wavy. The owner, who hadn't had it that long, was very pleased with it and claimed he could just about keep up with his mate in a Caterham. Quote
gixermark Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 they seem a great car - and the RGB frid is full of them... have heard there can bve issues getting bits for them - but have no personal experience of that myself - so coudl be hear say.. I also think they look great - i had hoped to buy one actually - but in our series here they must be seven shape/style, so i went for the striker.. Mark. Quote
BuGsBuNnY Posted March 31, 2008 Author Posted March 31, 2008 Much appreciated! I really like the way they look, and I can't find th right Westfield for me at the moment. Maybe worth a try! :-) Anyone know of a Fisher forum? Quote
nre Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Best place for Fury info in a forum format is on the Sylva chat google group: http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Sylva-Chat Quote
DanB Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Sam, Where did you get the black headlamp trims on your car from? I've been trying to get some for ages, as the FuryRacer is going to be matt black bodywork with black powder-coated internal panels and a black dash with a black roll cage. Chrome headlamp trim would look a bit odd... Cheers DB Quote
samcooke Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Hi Dan, They're standard (MG?) chrome ones that I sent to Autoeffects in Bicester and had them coated, it's acually faux carbon fibe coating (I forget why I thought that was a good idea) you can also get burr walnut and stuff... It was fairly cheap - £40 the pair rings a bell and it's worn really well, the lenses are peppered with stone chips but the rims are faultless. Though a quick google seems to suggest they may no longer be around and yell.com can't find them. They may have been acquired by http://www.apltechnologies.com/ Will you be fitting a strobing red light to the front? Sam Quote
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