Race Technology Dash 2

[michaelcoombs]

Ah of course......RTFM......I've perused the datasheet and it looks like it should output a nice square wave between 0.6v and 10v, so sounds suitable (will need +12v feed, ground, and signal wire to dash). So far we have:

RichB x1, DavidC x1, neilb x1/2 (tbc). Total = 3/4

You can put me down for 2 please  

[neilb]

Ah of course......RTFM......I've perused the datasheet and it looks like it should output a nice square wave between 0.6v and 10v, so sounds suitable (will need +12v feed, ground, and signal wire to dash). So far we have:

RichB x1, DavidC x1, neilb x1/2 (tbc). Total = 3/4

You can put me down for 2 please  

2 for me please    

[RichB]

I'll leave this open for a bit to allow anyone else to join in (let me know if you're in a great hurry though). So far:

RichB x1, DavidC x1, neilb x2, michaelcoombs x2. Total=6

[dibbly]

Out of interest, why are some people having 2? Is it a functional reason or for two different installations?

[neilb]

I am buying one as a spare for me and 1 for a friend on the group buy.

Just been speaking to Race Technologies, I will be ordering on Monday so I should have the units with me on Tuesday.

Stuart and some other people I know not ready to buy on this round, so there should be future buys at similar discounts.

Other news they are developing serial and CAN interface connectors to work with aftermarket ECU's (DTA, Emerald, MegaSquirt etc..) they are Beta testing on these. They are also doing a lowcost laptimer that will work with the DL1 for people wanting a simple laptime / warning display, should be less than £600 + VAT with the DL1.

I will get dealer support from Race Technologies on any products I sell.

Thanks

Neil

[darthurs]

As seen as you get dealer support, you will be able to answer this question. I assume the standard westfield VDO sensors will work with this dash?

Thanks

Dan

[neilb]

As seen as you get dealer support, you will be able to answer this question. I assume the standard westfield VDO sensors will work with this dash?

Thanks

Dan

Of course, you can either select your sender from the list of per-configured senders or enter the parameters of your sender into the system.

Thanks

Neil

[Dave Eastwood (Gadgetman) - Club Chairman]

...enter the parameters of your sender into the system.

True enough, but potentially worthy of Haynes manuals at there finest  

If you haven't got the calibration data for the sensors, you need to physically work it out. Easy enough with temperature gauges and a thermometer. Trickier with pressure gauges.

Mind you, all it takes is one person to accurately measure the voltage/pressure steps on one of Westfield's VDO sensors and to post up the results...

[DavidC]

Ah of course......RTFM......I've perused the datasheet and it looks like it should output a nice square wave between 0.6v and 10v, so sounds suitable (will need +12v feed, ground, and signal wire to dash). So far we have:

RichB x1, DavidC x1, neilb x1/2 (tbc). Total = 3/4

This may sound like a dumb question, but would the fuel pump earth (carb car, red top pump by the diff) be a suitable ground for this sensor?

The prospect of having the dash by next Tuesday rather than 4 weeks time has really thrown me now....I'll make my mind up by the end of today which one I'm gonna go for. At worse I can just add a red LED for the handbrake light to my dash panel for SVA.

Niel, does the supplied loom have connectors for the 4 buttons or are those leads just the wire? Assuming the answer is yes, the following question, do the buttons you can supply have the right connectors already attached?

Final question, is there a list of the pre-programmed senders available anywhere?

Cheers, DC

[darthurs]

QUOTE

Mind you, all it takes is one person to accurately measure the voltage/pressure steps on one of Westfield's VDO sensors and to post up the results...

I was going to be cheeky and ask WF for them, they must have worked them out for their dash???

QUOTE

At worse I can just add a red LED for the handbrake light to my dash panel for SVA.

You will need the correct symbol as well otherwise they will fail it.

Thanks

Dan

[DavidC]

No problem, http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onl....hts.php

[neilb]

These are the stand sensors in the current list.

Water temp sensor (Bosch 0280130026) in deg Celsius C -5.5986 42.791 -124.88 175.77

Water temp sensor (Bosch 0280130026) in deg Fahrenheit F -10.07748 77.0238 -224.784 348.386

Water temp sensor (Bosch 0280130026) in deg Kelvin K -5.5986 42.791 -124.88 448.92

Air temp sensor (Bosch 0280130039) in deg Celsius C -2.2747 18.968 -74.345 146.96

Air temp sensor (Bosch 0280130039) in deg Fahrenheit F -4.09446 34.1424 -133.821 296.528

Air temp sensor (Bosch 0280130039) in deg Kelvin K -2.2747 18.968 -74.345 420.11

Oil temp sensor (Bosch 0281002170) in deg Celsius C -2.5896 25.386 -98.938 167

Oil temp sensor (Bosch 0281002170) in deg Fahrenheit F -4.66128 45.6948 -178.0884 332.6

Oil temp sensor (Bosch 0281002170) in deg Kelvin K -2.5896 25.386 -98.938 440.15

Thermocouple amp ( -100C to +1150C) in deg Celsius C 0 0 250 -100

Thermocouple amp ( -100C to +1150C) in deg Fahrenheit F 0 0 450 -148

Thermocouple amp ( -100C to +1150C) in deg Kelvin K 0 0 250 173.15

Thermocouple amp ( -100C to +210C) in deg Celsius C 0 0 62.5 -100

Thermocouple amp ( -100C to +210C) in deg Fahrenheit F 0 0 112.5 -148

Thermocouple amp ( -100C to +210C) in deg Kelvin K 0 0 62.5 173.15

Fuel/Oil pressure sensor ( Eurosensor EPT3100-B-01000-B-5-C) in Bar Bar 0 0 2.5 -1.25

Fuel/Oil pressure sensor ( Eurosensor EPT3100-B-01000-B-5-C) in PSI psi 0 0 36.25 -18.125

Brake pressure sensor (Bosch 0265005303) in Bar Bar 0 0 62.5 -31.25

Brake pressure sensor (Bosch 0265005303) in PSI psi 0 0 906.25 -453.125

cm/s -> MPH (native GPS speed to MPH) MPH 0 0 0.0223694 0

cm/s -> KPH (native GPS speed to KPH) KPH 0 0 0.013980875 0

1/256th g -> g (native acceleration to g) g 0 0 0.00390625 0

1/10th Hz -> Hz (native frequency to Hz) Hz 0 0 0.1 0

The Standard sensor list is just a CSV file so no problem to add as many as you like.  If people want to email the details of their sensor I would be happy to add them.

With regard to the Brake Warning light - RT have not heard any reports of problem with it's location but the way it's mounted, height of the seat, height of the tester and size of the wheel boss are all factors in if it passes or not.

The standard loom is not fitted with any connectors and the buttons come with solder on terminals.

Thanks

Neil

[Tigger]

Neil,

Will the Dash2/DL1 work with the MBE 967i ecu and if it will, how the hell do you connect it up?

Not sure if I would need a "Can" thingy whatever that is?

May be interested in this BB

Tiggs

[neilb]

Neil,

Will the Dash2/DL1 work with the MBE 967i ecu and if it will, how the hell do you connect it up?

Not sure if I would need a "Can" thingy whatever that is?

May be interested in this BB

Tiggs

The Dash and Data Logger unit can talk to the ECU in 1 of 2 ways, CAN (Controller Area Network) Bus Interface or Serial (Good old RS232 9 pin D-Plug)

Can see anything on the spec sheet that says you MBE967i has a CAN output so you will need the serial interface this will take the signals coming out of the MBE967i and convert them for display / logging in the same way as when you plug a laptop in and run the mapping software.  The advantage of this is that you can log / display what the ECU is seeing from it's sensors as opposed to what the instrument's sensors are  showing.

HTH

Neil

BTW there is a Serial interface for the MBE 941 in beta test so if the data out is the same as your MBE967i then it will work.

[Tigger]

So technically, I wouldn't need anything else (I have sensors) apart from the Dash2 & DL1 to get going?

Another thing, is the 2g accelerometer in the DL1 enough for a Westfield or would the 6g one be needed?

Cheers

Tiggs