perksy Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Anything instead of an Mg Rover Product I'll Never buy an MG Rover product again aslong as i've got a hole in me a** Quote
brianm Posted January 10, 2007 Author Posted January 10, 2007 QUOTE Anything instead of an Mg Rover Product I'll Never buy an MG Rover product again aslong as i've got a hole in me Alright, dont tell the rest, but neither will I, brought up on maestros/marinas/ambassadours/itals and princesses. and yes they were a total pile of ship, bits fell of daily. This at a time when escorsts cavs and astras were all pretty reliable. QUOTE Anything instead of an Mg Rover Product I'll Never buy an MG Rover product again aslong as i've got a hole in me Don't think I buy one if mine healed up Quote
KerryS Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 as a result of that and more leisuretime, I will probably have a dog, and hopefully be carrying the fishing gear around most of the time. That may make my logic a little clearer. Volvo estate then Kerry Quote
Ginger Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Alright, dont tell the rest, but neither will I, brought up on maestros/marinas/ambassadours/itals and princesses. None of which are either MG or Rover... Really - lets compare apples and apples shall we? They've all been out of manufacture for what 20 years now, surely - got to be nearly 30 in the case of the Ambassadors/Itals. If Escorts were sooooo reliable when was the last time you saw an early 90s model? When was the last time you saw an early 90s Rover 200? Next time you do - compare the condition. The Rover was a world apart (better) than the Escort which 'competed' with it - something which was borne out by virtually every report of the time. Heh - even the METRO which is universally slagged off was reported by the vast majority of the journos as being a better car than the 'competition'. Of course - it's 'cool' to slag off your indigenous manufacturers, isn't it - maybe that's why we don't have a manufacturing industry any more. FWIW, I have a Rover - 1993 Cabriolet. Have owned it for 6 years and 50,000 miles. What's gone wrong? Service items. Starter motor (at 100,000+), I blew the gearbox at 125,000, and alternator at about 135,000miles. Quote
Ginger Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Shi*. Look at that - What Car reliability survey. Where's MG? Ahead of Citroen, Renault, Jaguar, Alfa? And Rover? Ahead of Audi and Saab? Must be crap then eh? Oh, looky looky - Top 10 Reliability Survey by What Car. Rover 25 at Number 3?!?!? Ahead of Volvo S/V40, Nissan Micra and Primera, Mercedes CLK. And if you look at the Top 100 you'll find the Rover 75 at what, 99? 85? 78? 37. Yeh, really falling apart, aren't they. Quote
perksy Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 FWIW, I have a Rover - 1993 Cabriolet. Have owned it for 6 years and 50,000 miles. What's gone wrong? Service items. Starter motor (at 100,000+), I blew the gearbox at 125,000, and alternator at about 135,000miles. Count Yourself as one of the lucky ones My comment was based on personal ownership Experience and once being employed in the Rover/MG Group supply chain Anyway back on Thread, Sorry Brian Quote
Barry Ashcroft Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Well I think it's safe to say that Ginger is a Rover fan You fight your corner man QUOTE I will probably have a dog Only if you buy a car from cooper Only kidding arfur Quote
Ginger Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Well I think it's safe to say that Ginger is a Rover fan You fight your corner man Yup, sure am Barry. Feel it's only right that I try to dispel the myths that German is best. We had a once proud motor industry, and the leviathan that was BL in the 70s left such a bitter taste that people are unwilling to forget it some 30 years later on so now we have NO automotive manufacturing industry, despite the fact that the cars were clearly better than the competition. Me? I try to support my country where I can. Quote
brianm Posted January 11, 2007 Author Posted January 11, 2007 Sorry Ginger, but for me Austin/Morris/Leyland all became Rover/MG or whatever and I do still tar them with the same brush. (They should also be feathered too imho) I had a succesion of leyland cars in the early seventies, all cast offs from my father who keep buying them for some unfathomable reason. Morris 1800S land crab, Marina1800TC, 1700 Princess, it goes on. What let them all down? bl**** broken switches, door handles, trim falling off and don't even start me on suspension failures. Why do I link this to modern Rovers? We have one Rover in the family of reps/staff cars at work. Sales guy who had it for 3 years only ran up 85K so it wasn't abused or overused. Its a 52 plate 2 ltr diesel estate, 75? or something like that, not sure. Anyway its just become a pool car, but its in a shocking state. The speedo is dead, fuel guage dead, switches broken, nobs broken off . The same old problems I remember He's back in a Ford now. Only one car I know, but it only takes one to raise real doubts. B. Quote
Ginger Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 Sorry Ginger, but for me Austin/Morris/Leyland all became Rover/MG or whatever and I do still tar them with the same brush. (They should also be feathered too imho)I had a succesion of leyland cars in the early seventies, all cast offs from my father who keep buying them for some unfathomable reason. Morris 1800S land crab, Marina1800TC, 1700 Princess, it goes on. What let them all down? bl**** broken switches, door handles, trim falling off and don't even start me on suspension failures. Why do I link this to modern Rovers? We have one Rover in the family of reps/staff cars at work. Sales guy who had it for 3 years only ran up 85K so it wasn't abused or overused. Its a 52 plate 2 ltr diesel estate, 75? or something like that, not sure. Anyway its just become a pool car, but its in a shocking state. The speedo is dead, fuel guage dead, switches broken, nobs broken off . The same old problems I remember He's back in a Ford now. Only one car I know, but it only takes one to raise real doubts. B. And when MG is relaunched by the Chinese this year?? You'll still not give them a chance? Switches and knobs broken off and you say it hasn't been mistreated? I just must have been lucky then, eh? Or maybe your rep (clearly the only rep in the world who doesn't mistreat his car) was just unlucky. Still, I'm not going to witter on trying to defend something - needless to say I can buy a near 200bhp car which will wipe the floor with the opposition, with leather, walnut and electric everything for virtually pennies because people have a blinkered opinion based on 30year old experience Heh - I can even have a sub 5-year old 4.6 litre v8 for under £10k Quote
Ginger Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 I used to sell Rover petrols when 200s and 400s were on the go in the late 90s .. soon as I bought one I would order up a head gasket never had my hands as oily than the times I sold them Yeh, the headgasket thing was a bit of a poor showing, granted... When BAe whipped the rug out from underneath Honda and sold to BMW the Japs were, understandably, miffed. BMW didn't want to spend money on Rover so decided it would be more cost effective to develop the Kseries (originally designed for 1.1 and 1.4 applications to replace the A-series) into a 1.6 and 1.8 litre form and use that to replace the Honda D-series (1.6) and Rover T-series (2.0) engines. Shame they forgot about the 'developing' Quote
JeffC Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 never ever had to touch the 1.6 with the honda motor fitted bomb proof .. but seem to remember it having the gearbox on the wrong side My mate bought a new MG zt ? ? (big one 75 ) 190+ (£23k !!! ) that was allright to drive , not sure on the claimed bhp felt like it wouldnt pull a hen off its nest .. I outdragged him in a 130 tdi A6 , which after I did he Pxd the Mg and bought from me (by this time the Mg had dropped to around £6k ) and he has had Audi ever since.. his current car has now 220,000 miles and not missed a beat.. worth mentioning (i defo wouldnt want one ) but if performance isnt an issue the Rover 75 diesel is a very quiet economical car plenty of room etc and feels a better than it is motorway driving it would take a bit of beating for the money .. Its just like you feel as though you are driving your dads car and scared anyone notices you plus side is they are available for buttons Quote
perksy Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 Always remember on one of my visits to Longbridge they had had a laser alignment machine that checked the bodyshell for alignment as it passed down the production line (Metro) If it found error/s it would halt production... Noticed that the machine didin't seem to be taking any readings Mentioned this to one of the engineers and He said "keeps stopping the production line mate so we've turned it off" Recently spoken to a friend at a local bodyshop where they have a Rover 75 in for repair They've been having alot of problems getting parts for it due to the fact that the suppliers will only set machines to produce a batch of components in certain numbers Would agree with your comments about Honda being "miffed" when Rover was sold to BMW I was working in Japan with Rover and Honda Engineers when the news broke Let's just say it caused abit of an 'atmosphere' in the bar after work If your a Rover fan, then good for you as they Always drop in value like a housebrick in a fish pond I'm sure there'll always be a bargain to be had for you Personally i'll always look elsewhere... As for the Chinese 'take over' Let's just wait and see on that one.... Quote
Mark Stanton Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 QUOTE As for the Chinese 'take over' Let's just wait and see on that one.... It'll be a No. 75 with egg fried rice Taxi ..................... Quote
Ginger Posted January 11, 2007 Posted January 11, 2007 Well yeh... But at least you can get it delivered... Quote
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