4 x 4 westfield??

[bootleboy]

A long shot this one...

I have just returned from working in Holland, where one of my colleagues reckons his old next door neighbour (in the uk) built a 4wd Cossie Westfield?

Anybody ever heard of this? Would it be worth the hassle if it was possible??

Aparently he was a regular at trackdays?

[Mike H]

4x4 Cossie Dax Rush - yes, even a superb V8 4x4 knocking around somewhere.

Westfield - no never heard of one, would be interested to see it if it exists.  I wouldn't have thought there was enough room in the Westfield chassis.

Mike

[JeffC]

had a blast after a I think was a Dax 4x4 cossie round Croft last year was absolutley  sh*te round the bends was like a hyperactive Cow on roller blades but  down the straights I couldnt get near it  left me Busa for dead  , I thought I had a plug lead disconnected      

guy wouldnt pull over to let me and  the Demon barber  pass  so we passed him under braking into Tower  , he followed us out and  tried to match  our pace round the Jim Clarks and ended up in the field           looked like it suffered chronic understeer  

[ibakes]

Z cars built a Tiger with Twin turbo (i think) Hayabusa lumps. front engine powered the front wheels, back engine powered the back wheels and controlled by electronics. 10k plus VAT for the conroller system apparenly.

[Marty]

Came up against a Dax 4x4 Cossie on a hillclimb event. Such poor lock, could not get around the bends, so no surprise it ended up in the undergrowth.

[reaper]

Z cars built a Tiger with Twin turbo (i think) Hayabusa lumps. front engine powered the front wheels, back engine powered the back wheels and controlled by electronics. 10k plus VAT for the conroller system apparenly.

yeh the zz1100 or somethin similar. not turbo'd but so unreliable that when tiff needell tested it it blew up 4 times.

still when it worked it tortured a maclaren f1

[cng1]

The car that tiff tried was the Z100, he certainly did not blow it up 4 times.  The twit mis-shifted and overreved the engines, which is what popped them.

The 4WD car was the Z100WR which used an upside down sierra diff in the front to drive the front wheels.  Engine management was Motec which restricted the power on the front engine in the corners.  The cheaper solution would have been to use a smaller engine for the front.

All cars were natasp.

[tex]

4x4 Cossie Dax Rush - yes, even a superb V8 4x4 knocking around somewhere.

yes i have seen that 4x4 V8 rush at harrogate last year - what an awesome peice of kit that was - not built for racing but long distance touring - but the finish was outstanding.. i personally think the 4x4 is too over weight - but if you have enuff horses up front and can make it handle..

[reaper]

The car that tiff tried was the Z100, he certainly did not blow it up 4 times.  The twit mis-shifted and overreved the engines, which is what popped them.

my apologies. my brain not working too well today..  

twit

have to agree with that quote

[scooby]

I was speaking to a guy at Ears Motorsport 18 months ago who said they got 90% into building a 4x4 cossy westfield but it proved undrivable and they broke the project.

[scruffythefirst]

Skyline box with active center diff will help, keep all the drive at the back untill you loose traction. will start to get heavy though.

[Karl Woolf]

The car that tiff tried was the Z100, he certainly did not blow it up 4 times.  The twit mis-shifted and overreved the engines, which is what popped them.

The 4WD car was the Z100WR which used an upside down sierra diff in the front to drive the front wheels.  Engine management was Motec which restricted the power on the front engine in the corners.  The cheaper solution would have been to use a smaller engine for the front.

All cars were natasp.

I thought it was more to do with the gear change  

both gear levers (each engine had its own gearbox) were tied together with a pin.

Tiff shifted and one of the engines didn`t change up a gear,

other engine dragged the first engine through its rev limiter to destruction

A joint rev limiter for both engines would have saved the day  

personally didn`t think that was as much Tiff`s fault as poor engineering  

[cng1]

Karl, the engineering was fine. Even with a twin-limiter you'd still be at the mercy of a downshift when you meant an upshift killing the engines.  I suggest that you take a close look at some of the other cars that zcars have done such as tim duncans old twin engined westie you'll find that they are beautifully engineered.

[Guest]

I am sure there was a pale blue Westfield at Harewood, I guess late 90's, which was 4WD cossie powered.  Appeared to be really well engineered and went like the proverbial rodent up a pipe.

[Mark Stanton]

No 4x4 Westfield      

There used to be a very fast 4x4 Dax driven by Mr Cowper at many hills and sprints        

Seems a Westfield isn't quite wide, big enough to allow 4x4 - been quite a few look at at it but nowt      

If it could have been achieved the factory would probably have done it