congorobot Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 As with most other parts I am quite sure that there is an alternative to buying a loom from westfield. Trouble is I dont know where to look or how much they are worth? I have a xflow engine, which is in the process of being converted to run on bike throttle bodies. The exsisting loom is a nightmare! I spent too much time last year sorting out wiring faults, when I should have been driving. Would something like a siera loom be a good starting point? Any suggestions would be appreceiated! Quote
DickieB Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 Vehicle Wiring Products - ask for Alan. Standard or made to order, about £100. Freephone help line once bought to help with technical questions. Comes with crimping tool, fuse box, terminals etc etc. Alan - top bloke (and no, I'm not on commission, just a happy customer) Quote
congorobot Posted January 19, 2006 Author Posted January 19, 2006 Gave VWP a call, they suggested that wires have been crossed along the way! no pun intended! I was told by them that they do not make up looms, but could supply the wire and terminals... Any other suggestions? Quote
gadrego Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 To be honest, unless you fancy having a crack at it yourself I'd be very suprised if you can find a custom made one for less than the price of Westfields off the shelf jobbie. Quote
adamnreeves Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 Gave VWP a call, they suggested that wires have been crossed along the way! no pun intended! I was told by them that they do not make up looms, but could supply the wire and terminals... Any other suggestions? LOL, ROFL, absolute classic! Quote
congorobot Posted January 19, 2006 Author Posted January 19, 2006 I was thinking that I could get a loom for another car and just strip out everything that is surplus to requirements! I realise that I am being lazy! I was wanting to avoid working out wire gauges for different circuts colour codings etc... It was suggested to me that this would probably be the easiest and cheapest route to follow. I have noticed since posting this topic, on another thread, Premier Wiring Systems do a sieara loom for a £100. I think that this will be the way forward! Quote
adamnreeves Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 I was thinking that I could get a loom for another car and just strip out everything that is surplus to requirements! I realise that I am being lazy! I was wanting to avoid working out wire gauges for different circuts colour codings etc... It was suggested to me that this would probably be the easiest and cheapest route to follow. I have noticed since posting this topic, on another thread, Premier Wiring Systems do a sieara loom for a £100. I think that this will be the way forward! Not had much experience with looms but I would have thought wiring loom very specific to the car and to take another one and modify isn't going to be much easier than starting from scratch, plus you are then already £100 down and maybe higher risk of not being the right specification. I cannot see it being that hard to look at the wiring diagram, work out the currents and lengths and what terminals to use. Do some googling though, someone may have already done the leg work. Quote
DickieB Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 B*gger. Meant Premier Wiring. That's where Alan works. Try them instead. Quote
DickieB Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 Sorry, I've been busy. I do have a day job as well, trying to save the planet. Quote
Top Cat Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 I am in the process of finishing off the wiring. I decided to get an auto electrician in for this one as previous experience of wiring problems causes toys to be thrown some considerable distance out of the pram. He has used a Rover 100 loom (he knows the colour codes off by heart). I did salvage a sierra loom from a car used for donor parts,but because of the model variation using one common loom (LX through to Ghia models) it was waaaay too complicated. I assume if you buy a bespoke sierra based loom from the suppliers mentioned you dont have all the central locking, heated screen, electric window stuff you dont need. Hope that helps. Quote
Blatman Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 Sorry, I've been busy. I do have a day job as well, trying to save the planet. You've joined Greenpeace as MP for Upper LoCoston? Quote
Barry Ashcroft Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 I'm an auto electrician and could quite easily have made a loom but the westfield loom is quite simply made for the job, There is nothing worse than when looking around a car and seeing bits of looms hashed together.A friend of mine bought a loom from a competitor for use on his westfield and it had no connectors on any of the wires & was a nightmare to sort out in the end he flogged it on ebay and bought a factory loom with all the connections right and all the wires the right lengh to just lay in the car and conect and play easy Barry Quote
adamnreeves Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 I'm an auto electrician and could quite easily have made a loom but the westfield loom is quite simply made for the job there is nothing worse than when looking around a car and seeing bit of looms hashed together .A friend of mine bought a loom from a competer for use on his westfield and it had no ends on any of the wores was a nightmare to sort out in the end he flogged it on ebay and bought a factory loom with all the connections right and all the wires the right lengh to just lay in the car and conect and play easy Barry Yep totally agree. I think at best it would seem you could save about £50 not going the WF route but then it will not look as neat and bound to have problems. I would say making a loom from scratch is far safer than piecing together bits of looms from various cars but then would it be worth the time and effort for a single car anyway! Maybe if you could make more than 10 looms and sell at £150 each then it might be worth while you think? Yep just buy the westfield one. Quote
jeff oakley Posted January 19, 2006 Posted January 19, 2006 Barry has a good point if you are building to the manual. I have built two and on both occasions I have used the proper loom which is very good, but then it should be at £225.28 for the cheapest version. On the new car I am building I am using a Premier Loom, the rational is that this car will be built with no screen, heater and will use a digital dash of some sort. Robc is building a similar car and has not used half of the connectors, half the wires etc. So for me it is the most cost effective way and will be exactly the way I want it when finished. A £125 saving is worth having to me, but time will tell if it is worth it. Quote
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