Mark Stanton Posted October 27, 2005 Posted October 27, 2005 Depends on quality of work - its a risk, especially if its a DIY job All I can say is a mate of mine who works for Ford and is well into XR stuff etc helped re-fit my CVH after Mike at Feriday had done his work and he commented that "that's one of the best looking bits of headwork I've seen" and he see's a lot Inlet ports and inlet manifold need to be matched for optimum performance whacking in a fancy cam without head work will be a waste + to utilise more revs solid lifters and heavy duty springs More BHP costs always has done always will without wanting to make your chips moist - if you can't afford it - don't do it until you have saved enough pennies to do it properly Talk to Mike - he knows more than you can shake a stick at
slippy Posted October 27, 2005 Author Posted October 27, 2005 A career change is hopefully going to produce a company car so my existing tin top will be sold and the funds going Mike's way me thinks. I know this a 'how long is a piece of string' question but how many beer tokens are we talking and what should I expect tractibility/bhp etc
Mark Stanton Posted October 27, 2005 Posted October 27, 2005 Read this and read this as well and this Then call Mike
slippy Posted October 28, 2005 Author Posted October 28, 2005 I've read up on Ferriday and they certainly seem to have a very good name... go on then scare me how much damage did it do the funds for the work you had done ?? PM me if you prefer
Mark Stanton Posted October 28, 2005 Posted October 28, 2005 My work was done a few years back now - as you'll see from dates - so obviously cost of works to my unit would not be comparable to todays current rate. Would be far better to obtain a ball park figure direct from the horses mouth
slippy Posted October 28, 2005 Author Posted October 28, 2005 I have done just that and I'm now torn between an 1800 short motor or headwork on the existing 1600 any thoughts ?
MartinH Posted October 28, 2005 Posted October 28, 2005 I'm now torn between an 1800 short motor or headwork on the existing 1600 any thoughts ? Depends on what you want to use it for 1800 will give you more torque. This is my experience of Ferriday. I run what I think is the only CVH in the Speed Series now that Mark Stanton has changed to VX power. I wanted to be in the 1600cc class so picked up my engine from MarkCooperS who was upgrading. It was a nicely put together with a head ported by Autosprint but it had a fairly mild cam and gave 126bhp. I took the head to Mike Tanski at Ferriday who checked the head job, matched the ports, and fitted a Piper cam with his own tweaks and solid lifters. The result was 140bhp at 7000rpm which seems to be about the norm, I think the Chairman's 150+bhp engine was exceptional, though I know it was genuine. I've done 12 events this year (10 Speed Series and 2 others) and the engine's never missed a beat and is fun to drive. The only downside is if I want more power I'm going to have to change engines getting more from the CVH is not going to be cost effective but for the moment its giving me a lot of cheap fun. I can't speak to highly of Mike he is the man for CVHs His work is high quality and his hourly rate is much lower than most of the bigger names.
pistonbroke2 Posted October 28, 2005 Posted October 28, 2005 Seconded. My Ferriday CVH is a work of art. Local bespoke engineering firm had all the Staff proding and poking the head when it was on the bench. Mikes an artist,his heads should be in the Tate Gallery. No quips about his bodywork please.
Mark Stanton Posted October 29, 2005 Posted October 29, 2005 Perhaps an item to consider when comparing my original CVH engine (now Kirks) is that the engine was purchased brand new and had never been used before fitting to my car in 1988/89. At which time following a careful running in period, it was always run on fully synth oil changed every 3000miles I don't think the engine has done more than a grand total of 20K, if that As Martin notes with his unit, the CVH although perhaps not as highly powered as the current twin cam engines never missed a beat and was 100% reliable with some general care and has a very tractable power delivery for general road and track use and is still IMHO a very cost effective unit for Westfields As with most things modern development always comes up with newer more powerful engines
slippy Posted October 30, 2005 Author Posted October 30, 2005 I think out of the two options I would prefer to stick with the 1600 and get the solid lifters & headwork done etc although this is slightly more expensive from what I can gather
slippy Posted November 8, 2005 Author Posted November 8, 2005 Red top or not to Red top that is the question
markcoopers Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 Not 100% sure, but when I was considering all options, I thought the 1600 head would fit on one of mikes 1800 short motors, as these are not the USA engines. If this is true (check with mike), get the head done first, then upgrade to bigger cc's later with the same head. My reasoning being that 140bhp from high rev top end power will help more with the general drama of speed and westfields rather than 140bhp from a bigger cc motor. Put simply do you wnat to go fast, or go and feel fast?
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