Really whats wrong with the world?

[James]

You have porbably all heard on the news the story about the five year old little boy who was abducted from his garden and the taken to the woods and allegedly hanged by a group of children    

Really what is wrong with our world it seems that our soicety has gone horriably wrong! at what point did we become so miss guided that our children turned into killers?

   

I hounestly belive that bringing a child into this world could be the cruelest thing that you could do!

I just dont understand why this sort of thing is happening and it scares me to the very fabric of my soul, at what point are we going to stand up and say enough is enough and stand up for what we belive is right? and acxtually do something about it or as i suspect has this once strong nation completley surcome to red tape beurocracy and intimidation?

[Asterix]

...don't think he was abducted...

[edit]at least I don't think the police know if he was abducted[/edit]

[JonnyBoy]

it probably all stems to the abolishion of giving the nauhty kids a good caneing at school. That and giving your kid a smack for being naughty. ( i agree that there are limits and extremes - but i'm making a point)

Take that away and the bad kids just get badder!

I wouldnt be who i am now if i hadnt been affraid that if i was bad, i'd get the threat of the slipper.. that for me was just as bad as actually getting it.

Kids these days just dont have any respect! (well.. those who are brought up in a stable family environmentwith parents that have time for them and show an interest do)

The goverment is responsible for more kids being born into disfunctional family environments too.. give benefits to people that shouldnt be allowed to have kids for having them and what do they expect. Children whos only learning comes from the tely, films and computer games. No loving family security and you get a kid who doesnt value anything!

Well.. i think anyway.

[neilwillis]

You mean when you were kids you never hung anyone?

What I really think is that it was a game that got out of hand.  

Just like the cases where a bloke defending his own property ends up in court cuz of some half arsed jobsworth CPS lawyer or even copper can't see what justice really is, it ends up in prosecution.

When I were a lad they'd have been thrashed to within an inch of their lives, and the whole thing forgotten about.

Of course when the media filters start to get going, you never know what the true story was.   It could have been something sinister, and if it was, I apologise in advance.

[James]

I think the very nature of the injuries would sugest some thig more than a game that got out of hand, not only that but I find it strange that 11/12 year olds would be playing a genuine game with a five year old, you know what kids are like they dont want to be playing with babies at this age.

I obviously dont know but I feel from the information given that this was something far more sinister and if it was then you have to sak yorself the question where are we going wrong? I mean its not like the first time is it remember James Bulcher?  

[neilwillis]

Yes, if it was something serious, there are a lot of questions that need asking.

I personally feel that kids are exposed to far too much violence on the TV, and in films.   Perhaps there is something in that.   I don't remember ever seeing anything like the stuff kids see these days.   Does it have an effect?

The Jamie Bulger incident was abhorrent, but you can't help but think there were 3 victims that day.   The legal system simply isn't capable of dealing with kids that age effectively.

[pistonbroke]

My view is that things will have to get a lot worse before they will get any better .

Throughout history there have been horror stories like these but with the instant in your face graphical media we have today the situation seems to have got a lot worse , out of control even.

Kids today can see first hand the horrors of war , either fact or fictual .

Personally I dont know if some kids have a problem mixing reality with make believe ,or what the true long term effects is on there minds , only time will tell !

[steppenwolf]

I don't think this was a game gone wrong. It seems to me yet another example of children having no understanding of right and wrong and where the boundaries lie. I blame the parents and a political system that actively takes responsibility away from them encouraging them to be bad parents.

[old fart mode on]

You only have to visit any supermarket to see that the children of today have parents who have no idea how to control their offspring and offer no sensible guidance on what is and is not acceptable behaviour.

I don't think we should 'bring back the birch'  but we should set a decent set of 'standards' for parents and children to adhere to and actively encourage both to adhere to them. Stopping parents from 'smacking' their children is the most stupid bit of 'social engineering' ever - sometimes it is the best way to get the message across when the 'round table' approach has failed.

[/old fart mode]

[Fat Albert]

the problem is not unacceptable behaviour by young people...

that is the symptom

the problem is unacceptable people becoming parents...

that is the disease

to borrow a book from a library you must fill in a form

to drive a car you must pass theoretical and practical examinations

but to become a parent all you have to do is take your clothes off

[neilwillis]

Ahhhhh so that's how it's done!

[steppenwolf]

Blimey, that's not how we did it ... no wonder my children turned out to be OK ....

[KerryS]

Ahhhhh so that's how it's done!

 

   

[S8ight]

bad behaviour is the fault of the parents, no other excuses.

never mind bringing back the birch they should bring back stocks and pillaries, that would teach most of the inbread w###ers a thing or two.

criminals have far to many rights, as far as im concerned anyone who gets convicted of a non trivial crime should have "CRIMAL SCUMBAG" tattooed on their fore head.

also all these stupid judges should be got rid of and replaced with real people from the real world  

[neilwillis]

I just read more about this, and yesa, it does sound more sinister than play gone wrong.  

It has to be as much the way the kids are taught by their parents as anything.   No doubt though they will sidestep the blame, and bleat about how society is at fault.

What's the crime rate in Singapore?   A leaf out of their book might be a good idea.

[Frau Vesty]

On a bit of a tangent - let's play "common sense cops"

Missing 13 year old boys found in lift

Picture the scene: Two 13 year olds do not meet their parents as agreed, having been to see a film.  Police are called and a localised search is instigated.  The mobile phone signal from one of the boys is traced to the shopping centre, but you cannot check inside the shops, because they are shut.  Do you:

a) Get details of as many shop keyholders as you can (hell there's probably a police database of them, given that they are probably all alarmed), contact them and ask them to come and search their shops for the missing boys, and break into any shops you are unable to do this for.  

or

b) Scramble the police helicopter, search a massively wide area, stopping trains and generally searching everywhere except where the phone signal is coming from, because it's locked and you can't get in.